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I am fairly new to sportbikes and I have been riding a little less than a year. I have been looking for a few months now to upgrade to a sportbike. I was mainly thinking of 600cc since they are less powerful, more forgiving, and easier to control, and the insurance would be reasonable.

Anyway, my question arises since there is a 1996 or 1997 (I'm not sure)Zx-7R at a local shop with about 8000 miles for about $5000 but the guy said he'll deal. The only reason that I bring this up is that I love the way it looks so much. I had been set on a 1999-00 Zx-6r or Honda F4 but this one is a looker.

So I am now very interesting in comparing the Zx-7r to the newer late model 600's in every way. I know that it is heavier but will this make it more difficult to ride? Is it faster? How does it handle? How about the reliability? Most importantly though, I wan to know if I should stick with a 600cc simply because I haven't been riding long. Is the Zx-7R a viable option I should consider or does it have too much power and less forgiveness than what I need. Any and all help would be appreciated.



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Get the ZX-7!! You'll thank me for it later!

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Thanks for responding Wolfman and I know I like the way it looks but I really need some specific info here. This is going to be a big investment for me and I want to research all the pros and cons of any bike I might get. I'm particularly interested in how this bike compares with newer 600's in every way. Long posts are very welcome.

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Although a little heavy (what is it, like 60-70 lbs. more than most of the 600's), the ZX-7R is a great bike.

It's got more power than the 600's, and, although not quite as flickable, it is very stable at speed, even in the turns. Respect your limits and you'll love this bike.

Considering its weight, the 7R turns VERY well, it just takes some practice to get used to it (as you would any bike).

Reliability - well, mine is doing just fine. I know some other guys with 7R's that absolutely love them - they never once had a problem.

If I was in your situation, I'd go with the 7R. Like I said before, respect your limits and take it SLOW, and you'll do fine.

One more reason to go with the the ZX-7R - IMO, it is flat out, the best-looking bike on the planet.

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I think $5000 is a little high but you said he would deal. I wouldn't worry so much about it having that much more power than the ZX 6R(or F4). The ZX 7R doesn't have all that much more power. It has more but the little bit of extra weight will negate some of that and make it feel more controlable. The added weight can sometimes make a bike feel a bit more stable in street riding anyway. Reliability shouldn't be a major issue. That is a relatively old design and has proven to quite reliable. Another advantage to the ZX 7R is the amount of aftermarket stuff avail. You can't go wrong with either of the 3 bikes you mentioned. :cool:

Keep in mind that the 750 will be quite a bit more on insurance. I'm not sure how much in your location, maybe something you can handle. The 750 will be around $4000 less than the new bikes your looking at. That pays for a lot of insurance.

If you ride alot of tight twisties then you would probably enjoy the 600s more. Much easier to ride fast in the tight stuff.

I'm not sure how big you are but that can also be a consideration for the bigger bike. That would be something you could tell in the showroom since all of the bikes mentioned have plenty of power for big guys too.

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Thanks so much guys for the help. This was the type of informative discussion I was hoping for. Please keep the info coming.

By the way I'm 5'9" and 185. I am not very tall but I pretty strong if that makes any difference.

Oh one other thing. Where can I get pics of older bikes like the 1996 ZX-7r and others.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Smokin' Joe:
Oh one other thing. Where can I get pics of older bikes like the 1996 ZX-7r and others. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, the 7R's looks have remained pretty much the same since it came out. As for the other bikes you mentioned, go to Yahoo or Lycos or some other search engine and type in something like "1998 Kawasaki ZX-6R" or something like that. You should find some pics.

As for which bike to get - in your situation, you have to consider insurance and other costs, and more importantly, the type of riding you will be doing. While on this subject, what kind of riding will you be doing? - city, suburbs, highway, twisties, a combination? Let us know and we might be able to help you narrow down your choices.

Whatever you get, don't just get it because it has more power or better handling than the others - buy something that you think looks good - otherwise, you might end up looking out your window at your bike, not wanting to ride it because you don't like the way it looks. Most Honda owners know this feeling. :D :D

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I just sold my 96 ZX7R about two months ago for $6,400 it had 8,000 miles on it.. I dissagree with the guy saying $5,000 being too hight for it. unless its not in perfect condition....the retail for the bike is somewhere around $7,000........ I really Liked the bike. I used to have a Zx6 before it and would never recommend a 600 cc bike for anyone......not enough power...I really liked the size of the rear tire...it comes with a 190 wich make the bike look meaner.....And I agree the ZX7R is one of the best looking and best built bikes out there........I have a Y2k R1 now.......this bike has tons of power but I feel is not built as good as my old ZX7R. And everyone I know with a suzuki has somekind of tranny problem....who knows......I might just be partial to Kawasaki.....but I do like my new R1 too.............

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Luis:
who knows......I might just be partial to Kawasaki<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I like this guy.

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Lots of good posts here guys and I appreciate it.

I would be doing mostly combination riding. Mostly in the burbs but the city and highway will come in to play. new Orleans is not a place where you can go canyon carving.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Smokin' Joe:
I would be doing mostly combination riding. Mostly in the burbs but the city and highway will come in to play. new Orleans is not a place where you can go canyon carving. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you've got the money for insurance, etc., go with the Kawasaki ZX-7R.

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Oh, and $5000 for a 7R in good condition is actually a pretty damn good deal.

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The $5000 is a good deal. The Kelly Blue Book for a 96 Kawasaki ZX-7R is $6105 without mileage considerations. www.kbb.com is the web address. That's cool. :) Now it makes it kind of interesting that a dealer would mark one that low(high mileage maybe). Luis and Spitfire will need to give an opinion on that. :confused:

I don't buy used bikes obviously, you can see why now. ;)

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Just read a Cycle Trader and an Ohio dealer was advertising NEW 2000 ZX-7Rs for $6600 or $6800! I won't be in the market until next spring, but if I were that's mighty tempting!

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That is interesting that a dealer would mark it that low.....but ofcourse it could have been someones old race bike! And I would not want it. or been wrecked pretty bad before... either way I would not buy a used bike unless you personally knew who you were buying it from.. but that is just my 2 cents...

As for the the dealer selling 2000's for $6800 that sounds too good to be true...I think retail is about $9,200 for them new....so I could see maybe one grand less but that much less.......hmmmmmmmmmm sounds like a low ball figure to get you in the door......I am with you though.....I dont buy used bikes either....at least have not purchased a used one yet........

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RCjohn:
Now it makes it kind of interesting that a dealer would mark one that low(high mileage maybe). Luis and Spitfire will need to give an opinion on that. :confused:<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
$5000 and 8,000 miles - buy it before someone else does.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted bt RCjohn:
I don't buy used bikes obviously, you can see why now. ;)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ha! He'll buy a Honda, but he won't get a used bike.....Pathetic. ;)

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Luis:
As for the the dealer selling 2000's for $6800 that sounds too good to be true...I think retail is about $9,200 for them new....so I could see maybe one grand less but that much less.......hmmmmmmmmmm sounds like a low ball figure to get you in the door
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I'm used to fire-sale prices on unpopular bikes here in OH, and believe I could get a 7R for $6800+ tax. I'm glad I don't have the cash now since lots of HOT bikes are coming out in 2001! Regret is a bad feeling. I've really enjoyed my VTR (another bargain), but if I could do it over again I'd spring for an R1.


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I dont know about Oh but Around Houston the ZX7R seems to very popular... But then again. who knows.....

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ok here is my 2cents: I also have been riding for only 1yr. I really couldnt afford buying a smaller bike and then having the hassle of moving up. I also originally wanted a 600 but my zx7 came along. It did take me about 6 months to get use to the wt of it but now it feel like its part of me. Now I am comming from the world of bicycle racing were a 20lb bike is "heavy".
The new 600's are incredible(zx6r and r6) but they are also not 5G's. I think that is a really good deal especially if its GREEN!!!

As far as the posts about new ZX7's for under 7 G's ...... Where the Heck is that!!! I live just below Cincinnati OH (northern KY)

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Luis, would you mind keeping an eye out in Houston for any new or used 1996-2000 Zx-7r models? Houston is only 3-4 hours from me and if I could get a great deal there on a used one, I would not hesitate to look into it.

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