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I’ve been reading a lot of the threads around here and many of the posters claim that newbie’s WILL crash their bikes multiple times. This of course scares the hell out of me because I just forked over a butt load of money on a 2005 R6. What’s up, am I destined to have at least one drop, or if I’m careful enough and aware of all the crazy a-holes will I be fine? How many of you have downed a bike before?

Reading some of these threads I’m almost sorry I bought a sport bike!:crying:
 

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I hate to say this, but yeah you will probly crash.
Its not an if, its not even a when, its how many times over.
Me? I got 4 and counting. Hey, bikes got two wheels and they fall over sometimes. No big deal. Wear your gear, and carry insurance. Learn how to use a plastic welder... Scratches are just character :D
 

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I hate to say this, but yeah you will probly crash.
Its not an if, its not even a when, its how many times over.
Me? I got 4 and counting. Hey, bikes got two wheels and they fall over sometimes. No big deal. Wear your gear, and carry insurance. Learn how to use a plastic welder... Scratches are just character :D
If you dont mind me asking how did your 4 accidents happen?
 

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I had an accident not too long ago, on a dirtbike. So im hoping that keeps me clear of any street accidents for a while haha =)
 

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First, within a month or so of getting a new bike. Following too closely behind a truck taking off from a stop light. With wet brakes (just went thru a big puddle). something happened ahead and the truck slammed on his brakes. I pulled on the brake, but the wet rotor wasnt doing anything to slow me down. With the truck bumper getting closer, I pulled on the brake as hard as I could. The rotor warmed up, dried, and locked up. I had no idea what to do about locked front wheel at the time, and I hit the ground. about 20 mph. minor road rash, sore for a day or so.
Second, A civic decided to cross the road. I'm in its way. it goes anyway. and I had 1060 miles on the bike. The bike was $20 away from being totalled, but easily fixed. I spent a few months on crutches, still got no decent grip strength in my hands, and I know when the weather is about to change now.
third. Wet race track. I'm fine on the wider turns, having fun sliding the rear tire, but once I got into the tight chicane the front wheel lost traction. I brought the bike up to regain control, but it cought all at once and threw me off. Broke a peg, a mirror, a motor mount, and put some scratches on the tank. Being in full gear, I was ready to go back out in minutes
forth. Complicated set of corners, one is off camber. I'm trying different lines to find the best way thru (still at the track) but I'm getting tired and dehydrated. Last time thru I spend half a second too long thinking about the best way. So I got off the track in low tripple digits. Kept it streight in the grass for about 10 feet, then some bumb cought my front wheel twisted it, and chunked me off. I did a superman style dive onto my head. Thank god for helmets. Did another 6 or 7 tumbles before I came to a stop. I was fine. Sore, a tad bruised, but no real damage. the bike lost a headlight and both upper fairings, with some damage to the mids.


To be continued....
 

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Dan6615 said:
I’ve been reading a lot of the threads around here and many of the posters claim that newbie’s WILL crash their bikes multiple times. This of course scares the hell out of me because I just forked over a butt load of money on a 2005 R6. What’s up, am I destined to have at least one drop,


Yes.

or if I’m careful enough and aware of all the crazy a-holes will I be fine?
Probably, but you'll still crash.

How many of you have downed a bike before?
All of us.

Reading some of these threads I’m almost sorry I bought a sport bike!:crying:
Don't be. Dress for the crash, ride as though there is a car around every corner, every driver will run the light infront of you, and the car behind you isn't going to stop and you'll be okay. You will crash, thats just a part of riding. Mitigate the consequences by being prepared. Riding is a LOT of fun, don't put yourself in a position of having to stop riding because you got hurt doing something stupid.
 

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As Kevlar says "dress for the crash" for 90% of the riders new to the riding are going to go down, lightly but enough damage to the plastic & bike to be such a let down to possibly body injures depending upon what you are wearing or pace you are riding.

Some people claim they have never been down or dropped the bike will not add in simple things like bike dropped at home, possibly forgot to keep the bike in gear & it rolled off the prop stand or in a stop & right turn.

You may have a LOT of experience & still go down. I felt so in '03 when I hit some sand on the twisties at around around 100mph when max speed limit was around 45mph & did get the bike down to possibly 55mph though rebuilding some parts & accepting scratches on the other was close to have the price of a NEW bike of the same make & model. Also by this time I was into my 58 yr of constant riding.

No one claims that m/cs are crash-proof due to only two wheels, constantly balancing & looking for traction & a fender-bender with a cage is "who's insurance will pay for this plus who was in the wrong" only with a m/c & a cage you are down as is the bike with it being damaged & possibly you are hauled off to the emergencie ward. Also why has the slang word of a car/truck come up as being a "cage" for it is not something out of the blue since the truck or car have a frame, cage & such to help in protection along with being upright most of the time.
 

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Wow, I didn’t realize how prevalent accidents are on bikes, I always figured that if I was safe (which I always try to be) I would be some what OK.

When you guys say dress accordingly you mean wear helmet, jacket, pants, boots, I understand the importance of that, and Im looking into getting some gear. But what do you do in the summer time and your going to work/school? I dont know but I dont want to wear leather pants and a jacket around at school when its 90 degrees!:barf: What do you guys do with your gear when your riding to work, school, etc..?

Thanks for all the info by the way, it is VERY useful!
 

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Mesh gear is wonderfull during the summer. It doesnt offer the protection of leather (that can be used to crash again and again in), but it works so much better than a t-shirt.

But the most important thing is attitude, you gotta develop the paranoia that everyone is out to kill you. Practice your panic stops, look for a way out of every imaginary situation.

There are added dangers on the street. On the track, you slide, you get up, you max out your credit card trying to fix your bike. Unless you highside or get run over by someone, you will be ok.

On the street there are big metal and concrete things to hit. They got jagged edges, and they really, really hurt. If that wasnt enough, the streets are packed with idiots, who will look directly in your eyes, wave, and then pull out right in front of you.
People arent paying that good of an attention to begin with (talking on their phone while trying to calm down the kids in the back seat) but what attention they do have they spend on looking for cars. No one is looking for motorcycles.

were you always interested in bikes? if not, do you remember how many more you started seing once you became interested?
 

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Dan6615 said:
Wow, I didn’t realize how prevalent accidents are on bikes, I always figured that if I was safe (which I always try to be) I would be some what OK.
Ever ride a BMX when growing up? Did your friends? How many of you NEVER came off their bike at some stage, even if only minor?

Now, imagine riding a bike at 70mph. It now weighs a few hundred pounds. You're on roads that may be covered with debris or water. Then, for good measure, chuck a sh*tload of vehicles into the mix, many of which are being driven by people who either don't give a sh*t about m/c-ists or hate them with a passion.

It's dangerous as sh*t out there, but you can do a lot of things to make it safer. It will never be entirely safe, but that's life, hey?
 

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First, within a month or so of getting a new bike. Following too closely behind a truck taking off from a stop light. With wet brakes (just went thru a big puddle). something happened ahead and the truck slammed on his brakes. I pulled on the brake, but the wet rotor wasnt doing anything to slow me down. With the truck bumper getting closer, I pulled on the brake as hard as I could. The rotor warmed up, dried, and locked up. I had no idea what to do about locked front wheel at the time, and I hit the ground. about 20 mph. minor road rash, sore for a day or so.
Second, A civic decided to cross the road. I'm in its way. it goes anyway. and I had 1060 miles on the bike. The bike was $20 away from being totalled, but easily fixed. I spent a few months on crutches, still got no decent grip strength in my hands, and I know when the weather is about to change now.
third. Wet race track. I'm fine on the wider turns, having fun sliding the rear tire, but once I got into the tight chicane the front wheel lost traction. I brought the bike up to regain control, but it cought all at once and threw me off. Broke a peg, a mirror, a motor mount, and put some scratches on the tank. Being in full gear, I was ready to go back out in minutes
forth. Complicated set of corners, one is off camber. I'm trying different lines to find the best way thru (still at the track) but I'm getting tired and dehydrated. Last time thru I spend half a second too long thinking about the best way. So I got off the track in low tripple digits. Kept it streight in the grass for about 10 feet, then some bumb cought my front wheel twisted it, and chunked me off. I did a superman style dive onto my head. Thank god for helmets. Did another 6 or 7 tumbles before I came to a stop. I was fine. Sore, a tad bruised, but no real damage. the bike lost a headlight and both upper fairings, with some damage to the mids.


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Wow. Thanks for posting that.

The unfortunate thing about life seems to be that the only way you can truly be guaranteed of learning is to make a mistake.

But a mistake on a bike can cause serious pain/death/money.

If anyone else has the guts to share their crashes I wouldn't mind hearing them. It gives me some perspective on what I'm in for, and maybe I can learn from your mistakes. :cool:
 

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Just do a search... there is no shortage of crash stories on this site
 

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Been down once in 13 years, and it came just last year. Was in a parking lot that had a 90 degree exit. 20 mph lean, oh damn gravel, washed out (low sided), oh crap still sliding, here comes curb...Bam...tumble tumble (me and bike). Had on gear so all I got was minor rash on knee and hip. Bike was a little worse cause of the curb. Needed all front and side fairings, blinkers, mirrors, fairing stay, headlight, and exhaust. Just fixed it and got back in the saddle.

Take the MSF, have insurance, don't let yourself get complaciant or pick up bad riding habits, and always act like everyone else on the road is out to get you and you will fair just fine. Don't go out expecting to crash...just prepare your body and your bike for it and you find that this is a great sport that is enjoyed by many around you! :twofinger
 

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The first time I remember wanting a bike is when I was 12 or so and my older cousin picked me up on his Ninja (don’t know what year or CC). We went about 100mph (or so he said) on a road by my house, I was scared shi#*less, but attracted to sport bikes nonetheless. So, going through high school and some of college I always wanted one but never could reasonable afford one. About a month ago I said to hell with it I’m getting one, you only live once right, and like Ill really get one when I married? Bought a 2005 R6 with 6,000 miles on it from a dealer and I’ve rode it twice, once just about an hour ago, a little cold but still AWESOME!

I am working on my awareness of other vehicles around me, even when I drive my truck, I do pretend that everyone either wants to or will hit me…..that should help with riding.
 

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i'll chime in my crash story, I was goin' around 45-50 mph when I see a stop sign turn yellow, decided to try to stop instead of gunning it through. pulled brakes, pulled some more, still not stopping fast enough, pulled a lot more, pulled a stoppie, let go of brakes, landed rear wheel then fell over sideways a little bit past the intersection. Had I not fallen, I would have stopped in time :D

Instincts told me to stop instead of gunning it, I didn't even see it till after I crashed but there were cops pulling motorists over at that same intersection.

Aside from that, I've dropped my bike several times due to low speed parking lot moves, and forgetting about my kickstand. like others have said, take the msf course if you haven't already as it really helps.
 

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I've crashed/fell down/tipped over on every bike I've owned at least once since 1983. I've been hit by a cadillac at a stop light, I low sided a KLR 650 and had to scramble off the road so the a-holes cage drivers coming up on me wouldn't run me over, I fell at 80+ miles per hour on a ninja 250 20 years ago because I was riding much faster then I should have been and a pickup truck came around a turn on the wrong side of the road, (bottom line is I was going too fast)

so be aware off what is going on around you, be extra vigilant and wear your gear, a motorcycle can be repaired, a person on the other hand can take a long time to recover from a crash.

My right shoulder hurt for months and month when I crashed the EX250, I hit my head so hard that the helmet broke my nose. I hit oil with my 98 suzuki bandit 1200 in 1999 and the front wheel washed out and I low sided pretty hard, my right shoulder and hip was sore for 6 months. My last get off was was a few months ago on the way to work on the Z1000; a three mph tip over when I hit green slimmy algae while applying the front brakes--bent my brake lever and utterly destroyed what was left of my pride.
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Ive dropped my bike many many many times. Turns at low speed (less than 5 mph) are a pain in the ass with a heavy bike. When I drop my bike it is usually either coming out of a parking space and a car decides to go behind me real fast so I hit the brake and since my bars are turned slightly to back out the bike dips and Im suddenly hit with 453 pounds of bike wanting to lay down. The bike never takes much damage from these, a few scratches maybe the loss of a bit of plastic, and I have to re-adjust the rear veiw.

The only time I've ever really crashed was the 3rd day I had my bike. I was practicing my basic riding on some mild to moderate curves around my neighborhood. I was doing 10 or 15 mph. I came up on one of the moderate curbs and just froze more or less. I knew I needed to turn left but just didn't. I went off into the grass and then turned left... by leaning to the left. The bike slid right out from under me. I landed on my left shoulder and blew it out. I also sprained my ankle slightly. The bike cracked the only good fairing on it in several places which made me mad, but I bought a used bike for a reason. It also bent a few mounts on the bike and picked up a bit of the local greenery. I picked up the bike and road home and spent the next two days reflecting on the crash. It scared the shit outta me and I almost thought about not riding again. But you can see I still am. I just took it as a part of learning. I spent anouther week riding through my neighborhood and revisiting that curve often to learn from it. (I can now take the turn at 45+).

Just take it slow and learn from your mistakes. Dont shit yourself, knock on wood, if you fall. Practice all you skill constantly especially if you dont think you need to. Dont forget to buy full gear and always ride in it. Dont forget to wear pants... I forgot today and burned the piss outta my leg, I was so mad... I never wear shorts even in the summer before I started riding... Bikes can be fixed, your body cant. When your in traffic look for outs and always try to find a safe place for WHEN the ass next to you cuts you off. I personally like to ride in the draft behind semi's. They stop slow, and no one like to ride next to our slightly behind them so my left and right are almost always clear. Just develop good comfortable habits and stick with em. This is just some tips and advice from a fellow :squid: Also, dont put any money into your bike as in upgrades or fixing cosmetic damage to the bike for a while. You will just be throwing away your money. Save it till you fell comfident you wont dick up:twofinger

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Have at least tipped over, if not crashed, on every bike I've owned. Most of my crashes were during my early years and caused by me.

Trying to make a quick "U-turn"... ooooooops, that median is getting higer..

Just taking a normal right turn... freakin tires... when they feel like rocks... they have traction like rocks...

High speed on a highway off ramp... "bang!".... leaned to far, bashed something into the ground, lost traction...

High speed on a road.... "crap! I'm not goint to make this turn... and I'm going to hit that reflector pole..." no I didn't, and yes I did

In the garage, leaning the bike onto it's sidestand.... "Ooooooh, shit... sidestand isn't down... "
 
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