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thats right i got my first ticket today.

get this shit, he gave me a ticket for an "unsafe lane change!" wtf is that. no speeding or nothing. he even told me that "its the end of the month and i guess you got lucky" WTF! he even threatened me with reckless driving where he can take my bike away for 30 days and screw me on insurance. well i guess i did get lucky as far as that goes. he said that when i was lane splitting to get up to the front of the line at the red light i didnt stay in my lane. WTH is that! i'm splitting lanes! apparently the law is that when you are doing that you have to stay on the driverside of the lane or its illegal.

anyway i gotta call the court on monday to find out if i can just pay them or if i have to go to court. it better not be an insane ticket or i will contest it. i try to follow all the laws to avoid this kind of thing...it just pisses me off sometimes.
 

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He was just looking for a reason to pull you, thats all it was. If its more than $50 I would contest the thing. In FL 9/10 times when you contest the cop wont show up and you get off. Sorry to hear you got pulled, only 2 more and you will catch me:twofinger

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thx, they cant slap me with the reckless if the cop does show up? can they?
 

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question: Was traffic stopped?

I do believe lane splitting in CA is legal. And that cop seems to be a dumbass because if you lane split between cars, there will always be a driver side (unless you lane split on the shoulder, which I think would seem like a safer thing compared to lane splitting between cars where a car from either lane could switch and cut you off). My thought is that the cop doesn't know the law, hates bikes, and wants to take it out on.

Talk to a cop friend or someone who knows the law and find out if he had the right to pull you over. If he doesn't have probable cause to pull you over, the ticket is bogus, but it sounds bogus in the first place.

Also, if the cop does show up to court and you can't get it dropped, get it continued, grab a lawyer and drag that cop basturd out of his job for being a douche. I swear, the few douche bag cops make the entire cop force seem like bad people. I hate cops who try to threat you with bogus charges. He def needs to lose his job and take up a fast food job.

oh, btw, whatever charges the cop gave you on the citation is what you will be 'charged' for on that court date. He just can't simply add more charges.
 

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If the cop doesn't show up, in florida atleast, the charge is dropped. If he does, then its up for review and you have to prove your side. If he doesn't have it on dash cam, then its your word against his, and the cop will probly win. If it is on dash cam the it will show who was in the right by law. If somehow you loose the case, I beleive you are charged a court fee, which may be more than the ticket, but I'm not sure. Good luck if you take that route.

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It's actually considered "lane sharing" and not lane splitting I think. It's kinda retarded but I can kinda see a (dick) cop saying you're unsafely switching lane to lane in between cars as a technicality. I've always thought that lane splitting was done on the passenger side lane (your left lane) and not the driver's side (right lane). Sorry to hear it happen to you man.
 

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I hate lane splitting in my area, as its also illegal, its totally dangerous because of the god damn idiots on the road (specially with cell phones). I've had people almost hit me when I was riding the shoulder and the cars had no where to go. They would just stick out and try to stop as though they got some grudge against me. I've had people honk their horns at me.

Shit, if I'm only going 15mph or so on the shoulder to bypass traffic to make the next turn, its not like its a totally bad thing. I think we need to take cell phones off the road. I had some woman drive through a stop sigh at like 30 mph with me going 45 on the road. I swirved and just passed her on the one lane road.

Tell that cop to go take idiot drivers off the road.
 

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oh ya traffic was stopped, but it was a long line of cars and you know they park all over the lanes so i had to kinda weave to get around them.

well i dont think i'll lawyer up as i dont got that kind of cash but i will definitly appear in court. the worst thing that could happen is i have to pay the ticket or whatever, and if he doesnt, i'm good. also i think maybe traffic school may help out with points and such.
 

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I agree completly that talking on the cellphone while driving should be illegal. It's been proven to be as bad or worse than drinking and driving. It's legal to lane split in FL, but I dont do it becuase... well anyone who has been to FL knows how bad the drivers down here are. Its hard enough not to get hit in the middle of my lane, much less inbetween two.

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anyone who has been to FL knows how bad the drivers down here are.

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you ain't lying. I live in Houston, Tx and from what I've witnessed Floridians have to be the absolute worst drivers around. It's not really that they don't know how to drive but more like they don't care about anyone else on the road.
 

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I agree completly that talking on the cellphone while driving should be illegal. It's been proven to be as bad or worse than drinking and driving. It's legal to lane split in FL, but I dont do it becuase... well anyone who has been to FL knows how bad the drivers down here are. Its hard enough not to get hit in the middle of my lane, much less inbetween two.

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Amen.
 

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Because the cop is citing you for being on the passenger side, you can at least make the argument that there were unsafe conditions present: oil or fluids in the area you would have been, the driver to your right crowded you at the last moment, uneven surface (pothole or dip) disrupted your balance and you went left to regain balance, etc.
With California courts, you will enter a plea on your first day of court (not guilty), then they will give you a second court date and notify the pig/cop/bastard that it needs to be there on that date. Then, if on that court date the loser doesn't show, your case is dismissed without further b.s.
 

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depending on how your state is setup, you can continue it like 3 or more times. So if all else fails, drag it out as long as possible and there's a greater chance the cop won't show up.
 

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Because the cop is citing you for being on the passenger side, you can at least make the argument that there were unsafe conditions present: oil or fluids in the area you would have been, the driver to your right crowded you at the last moment, uneven surface (pothole or dip) disrupted your balance and you went left to regain balance, etc.
With California courts, you will enter a plea on your first day of court (not guilty), then they will give you a second court date and notify the pig/cop/bastard that it needs to be there on that date. Then, if on that court date the loser doesn't show, your case is dismissed without further b.s.
yea seriously there are so many things that you could use to explain y you did what you had to do
 

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I agree completly that talking on the cellphone while driving should be illegal. It's been proven to be as bad or worse than drinking and driving. It's legal to lane split in FL, but I dont do it becuase... well anyone who has been to FL knows how bad the drivers down here are. Its hard enough not to get hit in the middle of my lane, much less inbetween two.

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I really hate to keep doing this to you, but you are wrong once again. Lane splitting in florida is ILLEGAL!!!

http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?mode=View Statutes&SubMenu=1&App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=CH0316/Sec209.HTM

316.209 Operating motorcycles on roadways laned for traffic.--

(1) All motorcycles are entitled to full use of a lane and no motor vehicle shall be driven in such manner as to deprive any motorcycle of the full use of a lane. This subsection shall not apply to motorcycles operated two abreast in a single lane.

(2) The operator of a motorcycle shall not overtake and pass in the same lane occupied by the vehicle being overtaken.

(3) No person shall operate a motorcycle between lanes of traffic or between adjacent lines or rows of vehicles.

(4) Motorcycles shall not be operated more than two abreast in a single lane.

(5) Subsections (2) and (3) do not apply to police officers or firefighters in the performance of their official duties.

(6) A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a moving violation as provided in chapter 318.
 

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I stand corrected then. Friggin common practice vs. state laws. Annoying as hell. But it doesn't affect me since I dont split lanes to start with:D

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I always thought it was actually legal in FL, not from just hearsay from other riders, but from law enforcement people. Could have been a recent law change? Then again, I don't indulge myself with Florida laws since I don't plan on living down there.
 

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First I ever heard of this. Most LEO's in California just know lane "sharing" is legal and do not know the specific sof it. You have a right to do a written contestment and then if that fails a court date to follow. Go to http://www.ticketassassin.com/ for more info on the best way to fight a ticket.

I am in no way affiliated with that site. Just us folks in our local Mustang club found it useful after seemingly being targeted by local LEO's for a few weeks.
 

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hey thanks JOE i am definitly going to use that site, mostly for the going to court by mail, as i dont have hours of my life to waste :)

thanks again
 
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