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Hello,

Name's kyle. i'm from Pearl River, about 40 miles north of New Orleans.

anyway, i'm interested in getting a bike, i've never ridden. Here's the deal, i'm 6'7" 280lbs.

What is a good bike? i want to spend around 2K.

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Kyle:squid:
 

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I've got a few things for you. Don't freak out when you read them because I'm not bashing you.

1) This is not a rough-and-tumble forum like you might find in other places (beyond the scope of this thread). Therefore, more than 21 minutes is required to get good responses. Be patient.

2) To find a suitable bike, simply go to a dealership, preferably one that carries all the major brands of interest, and sit on all the bikes. Ask questions about how the rearsets can be adjusted for your height for each ride. Mention the height issue with appropriate rides (noted in #3 here) with a KNOWLEDGEABLE salesperson and ask what other adjustments they can make to the rides you're chiefly interested in.

3) Read the "ATTN" threads at the top of this forum. They are the general consesus on appropriate bikes for beginners.

Good luck!
 

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I'm afraid that you might have to customize the bike to fit your frame. There a re several companies making adjustable rearsets, and someone mentioned adjust-a-bars.
 

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no offence taken, the thing is i'm so very new to bikes, and i dont know what questions to ask. When i've gone to all the local "cycle shack" type places, they all tell me the same thing, you'll have to get a 1000cc bike to fit. Well, that's a lot of bike to handle am i correct??? I've been reading through the stickies, but i like "live" feedback as well.

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no offence taken, the thing is i'm so very new to bikes, and i dont know what questions to ask. When i've gone to all the local "cycle shack" type places, they all tell me the same thing, you'll have to get a 1000cc bike to fit. Well, that's a lot of bike to handle am i correct??? I've been reading through the stickies, but i like "live" feedback as well.

thanks,
Kyle


The 'live' feedback you will get is from the same people regarding the same topics as the ones in the stickies.

My cousin is 6'7", 230 lbs... and his upper body (waist up) is the same height as me, so its ALL in the legs.

I have two lots of advice for you, and you arent going to like either of them.

1) forget about your 2K cap... It's tough enough to find a bike that fits you without the cap.

2) The two bikes you should be looking at, if you want to stay in the sportbike catagory, are a Kawasaki Ninja ZX-9R or a Honda Interceptor.

The ZX-9R can be had for around $5,000 used. The interceptor is $10,599 MSRP, but I am not certain about the price of that bike used. In fact, finding one used was top on my priority list today, as I spoke with my cousin just last night, and I believe thats the route he is going.

The interceptor is a nice bike for beginners. Slightly heavy, but has a reasonable amount of HP (107). The ZX-9R is considerably more edgy when in stock form, and outright dangerous when modded. Both (in my opinion) look very nice.

Interceptor



ZX-9R
 

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Yeah, a 1000cc bike will most likely mean you wont live to see your next birthday. Even the latest 600's are starting to get abit out there ('05 kawasaki zx6 has more power than '98 honda liter bike).
The whole "get a bigger bike to fit" thing is BS. Most 600 and 1000 have very simular frames, so they are not any roomier. Then you will most likely hear the whole "You need a bigger bike for the extra weight" Thats BS too. Let me illustrate. Take some 600 (say 400lbs, 100hp). If I ride it (150lbs) each HP is carrying 5.5lbs. If you ride it each Horse is carrying 6.8lbs. Thats about the power to weight ratio of the latest vette, which is pretty damn fast.

You can also check out the standard bikes. FZ6, honda 599, Z750, SV650. If you trust yourself, you could try a liter standard. They are much easier to handle than a race rep.

Again, I'm not saying this to be condicending. Here is what could easily happen on a full out race rep bike.
You get, and you love it. Its sexy, and fast and great. Everyone is jelous.
You spend the first 2-3 weeks riding around like grandma, slow and carefull as you gain confidence.
Then
a. Coming out of a corner you give abit of gas couse you are feeling playfull, the bike starts headshaking, you get scared grab the brake, and die.
b. coming out of a corner you accidently slide your rear tire, chop the throttle, the rear catches, you highside, the bike throws you off and proceeds to tumble thru the air and lands on top of you
c. Coming into a corner you downshift, the rear tire locks, slides sideways, and you highside.

Be carefull buddy. Its a great sport, but it is dangerous.
 

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hey, i'm not set on a 1000, heck i'd rather go w/ a lower cc bike being new to the sport.

How bout a point in the right direction on changing the foot pegs to allow for longer legs, Personally i like the SV serise from Suzuki, pretty slick.

I dont want a race rep bike, more of "cruiser sport bike".

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A non-race-replica 1000cc (or more) bike. It would exclude GSXR1000, ZX10R, ZX12R, R1, Hayabusa.

EDIT: The Kawasaki ZZR1200 is one example I think he's referring to.
 

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Good to hear. Sorry if I'm abit harsh, but I've had it with pulling newbies out of ditches, next to their squashed yamasuzikawanda 1600 nos edition.

SV is a wonderfull series of bikes. 650 are awesome, you can get the SV650S version if you want the sportier look and wind protection. They make lower fairings for them as well to complete the look.

The pegs on the SV are going to be lower than a race rep, but I believe gilles makes some aftermarket ones. Be prepared for them, rear sets ussually run $400-$500. Check ebay, it will be your best friend.

Here are some protek rearsets

Can be had for $233 Here

Which is a pretty sweet deal if you ask me...
 

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dude, you're not harsh at all. I really like the SV's. also can you give me a list of these "standard liter" bikes.

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The most prominent ones are
Kawi Z1000
Kawi ZRX1200
Kawi ZZR1200
Suzi SV1000
Suzi Bandit 1200 (S)
Suzi Vstrom (If you can deal with those looks)
Hone 919
Honda VFR
Yamaha FZ1


Some of those bikes are faired, but they still have a relaxed sitting position, and more stable steering (also the Z1000 will headshake for sure, I'm sure the rest will too). And some of them arent quiet a liter. But they are what I would consider big sport tourers/standards.
 

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Headshake is when the bars start wiggling back and forth. The bike looks like a dog thats shaking its head trying to dry off.

If you let go of the bars while riding in a streight line, most bikes (unless they have a stabilizer) will shake. But in a streight line its not really much of a concer.
Coming out a corner hard on the gas will also couse the same effect, becouse the tire lifts just a tad then touches down abit crooked.
Landing a wheelie crooked can couse the same thing.

A small headshake is no big deal. However a big one is refered to as a "Tank slapper" becouse it seems like the bars want to slap the tank. Those have a tendancy of ripping the bars right out of the rides hands. Once they wing far enough to hit the steering stops the bike will buck and throw the rider off.

Steering stabilizers are a big shock (linear or radial) that mounts on to the bars somewhere. Its kind of like the shock on the hatchback of a car, only beefier. It helps, Alott, but its not a cure.

If you get a headshake, let the bars shake, but dont keep ahold of them. If you hold them tight you will transfer the oscilations thru yourself to the rear, and then you will have two problems to deal with. DO NOT GRAB THE BRAKE. braking will transfer weight to the front, and if it transfers with the wheel not streigh, you will crash.
Insead get on the gas hard, the bars will lighten up, then hold them streight and slow back down. Of course if you dont have a streight away to do this on, you are in trouble.
 

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Are you kidding me? Do you have any idea how many headshakes I get on the 10?
I dont care how great a bike you got, there is always pavement quality to worry about..
 

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Are you kidding me? Do you have any idea how many headshakes I get on the 10?
I dont care how great a bike you got, there is always pavement quality to worry about..


uhh... Ken, I assure you, I get absolutly NO headshake at all when I release the handlebars, even at 70-80 MPH. Maybe you should have your tires reballanced?
 

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ok, well i am mechanicly inclined, so how much could i get a bike for that might need some mechanical attention??
 
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