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My wife is currently taking a local class (after hours of learning from me!) and is going to start riding on her own next year. We currently have an '07 Ninja ZX6R and she is afraid it is too much bike (too fast) for her. I have noticed a lot of the female riders on this board have 600's and even a few larger bikes; Does anyone see it being a problem for her to learn on a quicker bike as opposed to getting her something she will get tired of in a year? She is about 5'4" and 115lbs. She is strong and can touch on the ZX6R. Any suggestions or words of encouragement? Plus, if she can handle the 600, I get to upgrade for myself. (selfish) Thanks ladies!
 

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Hate to burst your bubble, but that is too much bike for a newbie.

The fact that your spouse already feels intimidated by the bike is also a red flag.
 

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I don't think that it's too much bike for her to learn on but due to the simple and most important fact that she does is reason to get her a smaller bike to learn on.

Everybody seems to think that bikes are immature and careless and uncontrollable but bikes only do what they are told to do.
 

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...Everybody seems to think that bikes are immature and careless and uncontrollable but bikes only do what they are told to do.
Which is why it's best to start on a beginner-friendly bike, like the Kawi 500cc.

Marginally incorrect inputs from the rider, a common thing among newb's, are multiplied on a race rep. It's not just about the power; The brakes and steering geometry are a lot tamer on the 500's.



Do your wife, your family and your friends a favour and buy her a beginner's bike. There's plenty of years ahead of you to upgrade to bigger and (not necessarilly) better things. :2cents:
 

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Why did I ask?

Damn it! You all make such sense, that you are making me feel dumb for considering the idea of putting her on that bike! I thank you all very much for your input and know that I would feel horrible if she were to crash due to the difference between that bike and a beginner bike. Thank You
 

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Damn it! You all make such sense, that you are making me feel dumb for considering the idea of putting her on that bike! I thank you all very much for your input and know that I would feel horrible if she were to crash due to the difference between that bike and a beginner bike. Thank You
Glad we could help.

FTR, my wife rides a 250. We both learned to ride on it, then it became hers when I bought the 1100. I've tried to talk to her about upgrading to a 600 (the old ZZR-600's are exactly the same as the 250, except for engine and a couple of other things), but she's more than happy to ride the 250. It's got enough get-up and go for her (I've had it out to 170km/h - 110mph) and it's nice and light, so she feels comfortable on it.

That's all that matters, mate, 'cause when my wife's happy, I'm happy. ;)

Don't forget to post up some pic's of her new ride when you get it. :thumbs2:
 

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My bike is the one I learned on and I would not change it for anything in the world!! I learned on a Ninja 1000R. Thats a HUGE bike for a chick to learn on, it took lots of patience and time. Only your wife will know if it's too much for her or not. My family was wanting me to start on omething smaller, but I would have been sick of it within a few weeks and want something bigger any ways.
 

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2 much bike? - depends

Ok first of all, I'm a female and just 5' 6" and 125 I started on a 600 - and it was just fine, but it was a HawkGT.

I rode the New Kawasaki's you speak of at the Keith Code Calif Superbike school this summer and I don't think it's too much bike. It is light and nimble. If it is still stock jetting and you haven't messed with it tried to turn it into a rocket then as long as she isn't going to get carelessly aggressive with the throttle she'll be good. Just don't scare her with it. The bike is a good one and she doesn't need to run it at high rpm. Guys do more to scare women off bikes just by acting like dumbasses! Show her by riding the bike in a quiet controlled style. no fast starts. etc. If you are wild with the clutch and throttle the bike seems uncontrollable to the new female rider. It's a great bike. But as my buddy told me when i got my 996 (also said to be "too much for a woman") it's just a bike - ride it. She can email me if she would like and I will be happy to talk to her about any of it !

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Ok first of all, I'm a female and just 5' 6" and 125 I started on a 600 - and it was just fine, but it was a HawkGT.

I rode the New Kawasaki's you speak of at the Keith Code Calif Superbike school this summer and I don't think it's too much bike. It is light and nimble. If it is still stock jetting and you haven't messed with it tried to turn it into a rocket then as long as she isn't going to get carelessly aggressive with the throttle she'll be good. Just don't scare her with it. The bike is a good one and she doesn't need to run it at high rpm. Guys do more to scare women off bikes just by acting like dumbasses! Show her by riding the bike in a quiet controlled style. no fast starts. etc. If you are wild with the clutch and throttle the bike seems uncontrollable to the new female rider. It's a great bike. But as my buddy told me when i got my 996 (also said to be "too much for a woman") it's just a bike - ride it. She can email me if she would like and I will be happy to talk to her about any of it !

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Not anything to do at all with the bike being too much for a woman. It's too much bike for a new rider, male or female.
 

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heres what i tell alot of girls who are just starting to ride anyone who is starting to ride doesnt matter male or female it dont make a difference a 6 is perfect for starting because something like a 250 or a 500 you out grow fast and when you do that you get cocky take it from me thats the worst thing you can do on a bike with a 600 she would learn the most important thing about riding and that would be respect for the bike.
 

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Thank you - finally

what you said is SO true. A 600 is a great platform for learning - I loved mine, I would have been bored on a 250 in 10 minutes. I do so recommend the MSF course - what i learned there - about reading traffic and controlled evasive tactics has saved my bacon any number of times. (the pipes will really come off the back of the pick-up truck and drivers will smile, wave and turn right into U - we've all seen it.) Best of all you get your license without having to suffer the arrogance of your local state trooper - which for a female - is a total bonus! Best to learn on MSF rubber! I still love my 600 and was going to get the 600RR before i met the love of my life - the 996. Respect the bike and it will teach U volumes. After taking the keith code school I realized that the only thing in a rider's way is arrogance and inattention. These machines are impeccably engineered - all of them. Most of us will never push their limits.
I'm still learning - I've got about 10k miles and a dozen track days so I still feel like a beginner myself. But what held me back(for years) in the beginning was a well meaning boyfriend who talked me into being scared of the bike. Any new rider needs to respect it but also realize that you just need to go at your own pace and learn the ropes and the rewards far outweigh the obvious risks. Ride it and learn it - it is an inherently good thing.( I have had many women tell me the same thing - they got scared of the bike because someone was riding wildly and they felt that it was the bike that was out of control.) They are machines - they respond to our input - guys - if you want your women to ride don't scare the *&%$ out of them - wheelies with passenger = bad =-) EEEW I sound preachy - not my style - It just bugs me when people scare U to death then tell U something that is quite doable is too much for U - in the end though - any new rider should only ride what he or she is comfortable with. 'sides - we all want more sportbikes out there right?!

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DucGrrl said:
Ok first of all, I'm a female and just 5' 6" and 125 I started on a 600 - and it was just fine, but it was a HawkGT.

I rode the New Kawasaki's you speak of at the Keith Code Calif Superbike school this summer and I don't think it's too much bike. It is light and nimble. If it is still stock jetting and you haven't messed with it tried to turn it into a rocket then as long as she isn't going to get carelessly aggressive with the throttle she'll be good. Just don't scare her with it. The bike is a good one and she doesn't need to run it at high rpm. Guys do more to scare women off bikes just by acting like dumbasses! Show her by riding the bike in a quiet controlled style. no fast starts. etc. If you are wild with the clutch and throttle the bike seems uncontrollable to the new female rider. It's a great bike. But as my buddy told me when i got my 996 (also said to be "too much for a woman") it's just a bike - ride it. She can email me if she would like and I will be happy to talk to her about any of it !

mary louise:thumb:
There is a chasm of difference between riding a bike at the track under close supervision by coaches who can obliterate many advanced riders and riding on the street. Riding the track is very enviable and an excellent way to advance your skills rapidly. Riding the street requires a great deal more caution since there are countless more things that can go wrong as compared to the very controlled track setting. Ignore these factors at your own peril :2cents:
 

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I'm 5'7" and 125 lbs. All my "guys" (dad, brother, bfs) have always told me that it's no big deal to learn on a bigger bike and I can certainly handle it. For me, nothing is more important than learning on something that I'm comfortable with and confident on. The last thing I want is to be afraid of the bike while learning how to ride it. I'd get her a used 250 and sell it in a couple months once she's ready to try the 600. The 250s hold their value really well since there aren't many options for newbies. Just don't make her feel bad for speaking up if she's not ready for the 600.
 

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Please do not put your beloved wife on a 600cc supersport as a first bike. And listen to the voices of reason here that tell you the same. The others are mostly kids who don't know any better.

One of the best analogies I've heard for this is the car one - would you teach a brand-new driver to go out and buy a Ferrari? Or something with the power and response of an Indy car? Then why would you put a new rider on anything similar?
 

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I learned on a Kawasaki ZX 10r...I guess it was a trial by fire? I was told I COULD learn to ride on it not that it was recommended for a noob, I took it and gave it the respect it deserved and took it slow getting the feel of it. I dunno guess I did it all backwards, but these day's I wouldn't have anything below a 1000cc. But I do see the point, if shes not comfortable with it I wouldn't bother and get a diff bike if thats what she wants. Things can get out of hand in a hurry if some one can't handle it.

I for one love extremes weather it be speed or HP I HOPE I have both lol. My old bike before I had to sell it was a Kawasaki ZX 10r, I had a lot of mods done to it, a lot of Yoshimura engine and exhaust mods by the time I was done with it it nearly pushed as much as any Busa out there with a top speed of 220mph.

To my friends I'm a certifiable nutcase, Speed Queen and voted most likely to die on my bike. On the other side of the spectrum I love my bikes and want to keep them looking show floor new, so I am careful of how I ride...I just have my moments where I want to see the line blur ya know?

I think the best thing to do is take your time and get to know your machine, my saying is this...You have TWO bags...One filled with luck, the other empty for use to gather experience...work on filling the one bag and make sure you don't run out of the other ROFL!
 

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Great book to read for first bike

Here is a great read for gals..a direct, comprehensive guide to buying your first motorcycle.

Have a look at this book on Amazon:

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Happy and safe riding!

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As a woman rider. im 5'10'' and i started on a ninja 250. i also had no idea how to work a bike clutch. i had no prior experience, no dirt bike no 4 wheeler. i am very thankful that i did get the 250. BUT! i only had it one season. i needed something bigger the next year. Thats gonna be the problem. I feel that if shes iffy on riding and afraid of her bike then its not even worth trying her on the 600. If shes no comfortable and confident on the 600 please please please get a 250. if shes afraid is wont be comfortable and i think, thats the number one turn off to girls riding bikes. i see it all the time, girls buying 600s and they are just to scared of it and give up after a the first season. If shes afraid she wont enjoy it like she should. ALso i can say that i am not just a good rider, im an excellent rider. my bike is part of me. 1000s are left in the dust all day in turns, and i honestly believe that its due to starting on the 250. This is my advise and i would offer this to anyone...man or woman....
 

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It is decent thing, that we catch so many bikes on the road and even at the home of some peoples. Nowadays on every single track of city, you'll find bikes or scooters.
 
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