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:D The age old question is what bike to get? I am signed up for the MSF course. I will be taking it in Dec. early in the month. Anyway, I am 6'-4" 210 lbs. no 2-wheel experience - some 4-wheelers. Anyway I plan on riding around the house on weekends and after work some. Just to start.... I would eventually like to work up to daily riding a 55 mile each way trek to work. I have always loved bikes, but only now have the money and guts to go for it. I am not interested in speed I know my right wrist works fine. I like the idea of stability and "predictable handling". I thought I would also put in that I am 27 years old w/wife and child. So first one to say go for the Gixxer 750 so I don't grow out of it will get the perverbial(sp) tack hammer to the forehead;)
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P.S. lets try and keep this on subject for a little while anyway:rolleyes:
 
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I got my first (street)bike, a Ninja 500R, a little over a year ago, and have found it to be a good choice. I've ridden F4is, 929s, R6s, and GSXR 600 and 750s, and, every time I hop off of one of those bikes, I am damn glad I started off with the EX500; it's very deliberate and predictable. However, once you get comfortable enough with it to push it a little, you'll find that it's a lot of fun; I've scraped the footpeg feelers on mine countless times.

I rode with a few squids (an F4i, a Duc 750, and an R6) last summer, and while I couldn't ride the long wheelie with them, I spanked their asses on every curve and hung with them most of the time (quick-shifting dorks. . .)

The EX is a great bike to learn on, and, past that, it's cheap to buy and insure. When I get a new bike in the summer (probably an F4i or ZX-6R), I'm gonna keep the 500 and make it a track bike.
The one thing I would reccomend that I didn't do is buy your first bike used unless you plan on keeping it for a long time.

Good luck in your search, and keep that tack hammer ready.

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My opinion...

Buy a used:
EX500
F2
or F3

All reliable with decent power, great quality, can be had for a good price, fun to ride at any skill level and reasonable to insure.
 

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How about the Suzuki SV650S. Might need to upgrade suspension for you weight, about 200 bucks for the front for springs and gold valves.

ZX600 or YZF600R (not the race rep 600r or R6 respectively) are good comfortable bikes for someone your size and not considered twitchy.
Good luck.
 

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I think a 2-cylinder, like the ones already mentioned are great if they fit. Maybe this>>Alternate bike choice Web site. is worth looking into. I'm only 6'3" tall but this type of bike is extra roomy and can take lotsa weight.
As a beginners bike, this type would be hard to beat because, they are easy to handle and they can take a drop without costing you an arm and a leg. Then you can move onto something bigger.
There are different bikes like this out there, But I know you can find lotsa hop-up parts for this motor.
 

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:D Thanks for the input. I was wondering, I found a Ducati Monster 600 cheap. $2500 for 2000 model 3000 miles. Are these good bikes. I love the Ducati 748/998 styling (who doesn't), but I thought the monster may be cheaper and better to start out on. The EX500 is also a consideration of mine so thanks. Is there any opinion of the monster 600?
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kawi jm said:
:D Thanks for the input. I was wondering, I found a Ducati Monster 600 cheap. $2500 for 2000 model 3000 miles. Are these good bikes. I love the Ducati 748/998 styling (who doesn't), but I thought the monster may be cheaper and better to start out on. The EX500 is also a consideration of mine so thanks. Is there any opinion of the monster 600?
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That would work, Ducks need more TLC than a Japanese bike though.
 

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The Duc sounds like an excellent deal, perhaps a little too good, so make sure you check it out thoroughly and perhaps by an experienced Duc motohead. The money you save walking away from a problematic machine is well worth it.

On the other hand, if it's in decent shape, I think it's an outstanding choice, especially considering your substantial dimensions. Too many of the starter bikes are rather cramped for a big dude.

Welcome to the wonderful world of motorcycles. :D

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(editted due to sleepless horid typing, :eek: )
 

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I know that I will probably regret this due to the abuse I might get from other SBW members but....have you looked at the Katana 600? They are not expensive, cheaper to insure, pretty comfortable to ride (classified as a sport-tourer) since you will use it to commute, and they are pretty good beginner bikes. They are quick enough but you have to want to go fast. Not like the supersport class of 600s. The only downside I can think of it that it is very heavy (for me) but this shouldn't be an issue for a guy your size. Good luck and I hope this helps.
 

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One problem with the Monster 600 for you might be the seat height. The seat on those guys is like 29". For '02 the 600 is injected and picks up dual disk on front... at your height, man it would be like doing the splits when you stop! Sit on one and see. The 750 monster is just slightly higher but I don't remember how much.
 
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I was sort of in this situation about a year and a half ago. After riding cruisers for years I decided I wanted a sportbike. I was tempted by the Katana for it's ergonomics but after riding one I said "no way". It sits really low and all your weight is on the arms and wrists. I fell in love with the new Bandit. I didn't like the look of the old Bandit but when I saw the new look of the 2000 600s I said, "I gotta have that!" 10k later I still love it. It's fast if you want it to be and cruises too. But if the Bandit was my wife, the SV650s would be my mistress. I rode one and didn't want to give it back! The only thing is, it's kinda small. The Bandit is big and tall and that's great for big riders. I'm 5'11" and 220lbs. Did I mention that my Bandit is for sale? (my real wife is reading this) Let me know if you are interested.
 

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:) lOVE THE FEED BACK GUYS! First off I didn't realize the Monster was that short, and even if it is I eventally want to get a 748 Ducati so as far as the wrist and arm goes I better get used to it. I like the full fairing bikes, but the first time I drop the darn thing I know I will be wishing I bought a "naked" bike. I am a realist and I know I am going to screw up so the idea is to minimize cost. I am leaning towards a twin just because that sounds like what I want.
 

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I just got some info on maintenance cost on a duc, and WOW I don't think so. I may indulge my self later down the road, but right know I want something with a little less upkeep and more enjoyment factor. I guess I am going to stick with a jap bike for now. I would also like to know if waiting to purchase before I get the MSF course is a smart idea. I'm taking it in Dec. so should I go looking to buy or just tire kicking. I know when I am selling something I hate for my time to be wasted on tire kickers. So I am trying to extend the courtesy by not looking until I am ready to buy. Should I be ready to ride as soon as the course is over or am I just getting antsy(sp?).:eek:
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Kick tires, take course, ask about the dealers reputations everywhere and buy that bike!
 

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One of the first things I did when looking for a bike was "try it on" go to your dealerships, and sit on EVERYTHING... Let the salesman know your only dreaming, and NOT buying. They then leave you alone...:) In most cases,if you buy a bike that is no more than 3-4 years old, the weight and styles are pretty close to the new ones... so you can get an idea for what they feel like, balance points, weight, you get the idea. after I picked out about three that felt good, and I liked, I then started on looking for the used ones, so when I found that "awsome" deal I knew what I was in for. Good luck!
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First off, if you would even consider a katana (intentionally left without capitol letters as it deserves so little respect, j/k, good beginers bike) look at the 750. It would fit someone your size FAR better than the 600 which has a pretty low seat last I checked.

Second, at 6'4" you will find that you are virtually never going to have your weight on your wrists just because you have long arms (I hope, as you'd look awefully funny if not). So the race replicas are going to cramp your knees, not your wrists as far as I can tell. Most of the suggestions thus far are not RR's but the 748 you appropriately lust for is.

I would wait to buy a bike after the course only if you think you might have a lot more confidence afterwards and be interested in a bigger bike after that little bit of experience. I'm not saying buy one tomarrow, just not to pass up a good deal on the bike you want if it comes along before the course. The deals will mostly improve as the winter comes but the choices may decrease somewhat. Also, don't be afraid to travel a fair distance to get a good deal, check the www.traderonline.com and take an experienced friend or have a mechanic in the area of the bike check it out before you travel to see it. In this case obviously the price should be negotiated and the deal contingent only on whether the bike is in the stated condition. This has worked well for me.

What's your price range and are you paying cash to avoid full coverage insurance or do you plan to have a loan and get raped on insurance (not so subtle predjudice hidden in the form of a question:D ).
 

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First of all keep the sugguestions coming. First off I am paying cash, but not avoid the insurance issue. My wife, bless her heart, works in the insurance field:D soooo I can get a killer rate on a bike esspecially a twin. They catigorize it as a sport touring bike not a true sport model. Anyway I am rambling. I have sat on a few new ones and I have it narrowed down. If you would please give any opinions or experiences on/with these bikes I would appreciate it.

1998-current EX500
1998-current GS500E
1998-current SV 650
As far as price range I am pretty flexible. I have been stewing on getting into riding for some time. A good money figure would be around $3000 - $3500. I know I can get one of the above mentioned bikes for that or less.

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I have an SV650S and my wife has an EX500. The SV is a great bike, loads of power at all rpms, accelerates and turns eagerly, feels planted and is confidence-inspiring. I am 5'9" and it fits me fine. Finally, there are 2 great web sites, the best I've ever seen, devoted to the SV, svrider.com and sv650.org. All that being said, I really think the EX500 is a lot of fun and well made, turns even better than the SV, and fits a smaller rider better (my wife is 5'4"). It doesn't have the SV's power (68 hp), but it has plenty (52 hp). My wife feels the SV is too top-heavy and that its seat is too tall for her. I think the EX500 is too short and is buzzy below 3,000 rpm. The GS500 is not in the same league as either of these bikes. Motorcyclist did a comparo in October, and the GS was woefully deficient in many areas. Larry
 

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Forget the GS for someone your size, it's not enough motorcycle to give you room to grow. I have ridden an SV and love the thing: good power, utterly flickable (I take it in much deeper than I feel I can my big liter and just toss it over and it comes back for more), lots of cool upgrades available for looks or power. Down side to the SV is that it's suspension is weak stock. You can fix the front (for your size) with springs and oil ~$75 or go with revalving, oil, and springs ~$200. Pretty expensive to really change the back end but for someone starting out you won't really work the rear too hard for a while so just set a bunch of preload until there ain't no more or it actually holds your weight. Fun bike. I have no experience with the EX but think its almost as good a starter bike as the SV. Suspension is probably as cheap or cheaper and tires look pretty crappy stock (don't know if it's hard to get good ones now but the rim size used to eliminate any real good choices). As a beginner though they'd both be good choices and their down sides would only show if you got fairly aggressive. I'd bet they'd keep you entertained for at least a couple years with only minor upgrades. In your price range the only other choice I see would be an older cbr600f2. That would probably offer the best breaks/power/suspension/tire choices for the price. Downside is finding one in good shape at your price and keeping the bodywork in good shape as a beginner.
 
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