Just wanted to thank Smitty and the rest of the bike veterans out there for their patients with all of us newbs and our questions. It seems like every other thread i read Smitty is explaining to another new guy why they should stay away from 600cc+ four bangers. again thanks for your patients man. not to long ago i had my heart set on a newer 600 sportbike and after reading this forum and other articles, taking the MSF course, and also hearing all the bad stories about newbies getting themselves into trouble, ive thought otherwise. you gota learn to crawl before you walk. besides theres a lot more to motorcycling and sportriding than lookin badass and trying to go as fast as possible right away. so not to long after i stop bein a lazy ass and get a job again ill be getting a twin 500 of some kind. thank you all again for your honest, educated opinions and the patients all you vets have had with us all.