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I'm kinda new to wheelies...still learning. I can bring it up rocking it in first gear sometimes. When i do bring it up i can hold it for about 50-100ft.

It just seems like i can bring it up so much easier standing. The only problem is when it comes up i get scared as shit and drop it right back down.

Is it harder to hold up a wheelie standing up is the question.

btw, this is a 02 f4i

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It depends on rider (weight, etc), size of balls, and bike. I personally don't recommend stand-ups both for a beginner and in first gear. First gear is where the most torque is and it's just too easy to loop it. If you want a nightmare story on why you don't want to loop it: a professional stunter in FL looped his bike (GSXR1000) so hard that when they went to see his wreck, all they saw in his helmet were skull and brains........not pretty and definitely sad.

Learn sit-downs first and then move to stand-ups. Standing should only be done in second on. Once you get good, then do stand-ups in first.

Besides, all of those stand-ups you're ending early are killing your forks and seals.
 

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Whoaa. Forget the standups for now then. Dang.

I tried bringing it up in 2nd gear but it just wont come up. I take it to about 25-30mph in 2nd then rev it to like 8k and drop the clutch but nothing. Front wheel doesnt even feel close to coming off the ground.

thanks for the help

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Man lay off of them you sound a bit too green for the tricks your trying.

Wheelies can go real bad real quick and they usually total bikes when they go bad. However, your going to slow in second to pull that thing, roll it up to about 9k rpms nice and steady, stand up, let off the throttle for a split second and then gas it and yank.

She will come up.
 

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So your telling me that my 600f4i will come up with no clutch in 2nd? Why does everyone else have to clutch 2nd then?

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wheelie123 said:
It depends on rider (weight, etc), size of balls, and bike. I personally don't recommend stand-ups both for a beginner and in first gear. First gear is where the most torque is and it's just too easy to loop it. If you want a nightmare story on why you don't want to loop it: a professional stunter in FL looped his bike (GSXR1000) so hard that when they went to see his wreck, all they saw in his helmet were skull and brains........not pretty and definitely sad.

Learn sit-downs first and then move to stand-ups. Standing should only be done in second on. Once you get good, then do stand-ups in first.

Besides, all of those stand-ups you're ending early are killing your forks and seals.
Who looped, Wheelie? What team was he on?
 

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So your telling me that my 600f4i will come up with no clutch in 2nd? Why does everyone else have to clutch 2nd then?

sam
I can bang that bitch up in 3rd...... Guaranteed. I can do my F4 in 3rd gear and the injection definitely helps out, so there is you answer. I am not going to sit here and do another explanation. It is all trial and error. If your determination is bigger than your conscious, then you will succed.

You may want to try to do a search on this topic.
 

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Wow, i never knew a 600 could be brought up in 2nd or 3rd without the clutch. Everything i searched always said to clutch it after 1st.

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Who looped, Wheelie? What team was he on?
Hey Chris, it was a team in South Florida. It was a couple of years ago, but I remember it shook up the stunters that I was riding with at the time pretty badly.

It was an informal practice session, but there were a lot of people there watching this team practice. I confirmed it at the time on the Starboyz web board and the actual stunt team's website. I can't remember now what their name was. The website told everyone that it was true that he had passed, but at the time they didn't give details and I can understand why.

He was over the handlebars (can't remember the term now) and when he ripped his Gix 1K up, it just kept on going over. Everyone there was crying, but the stunt team couldn't believe it happened as he was one of the best stunters around. Apparently the Gix was somewhat new to him.

LESSON TO ALL SQUIDS: DO NOT GET THE SUZUKI GSXR 1000 IF YOU ARE NEW TO RIDING.....EVEN THE BEST DIE ON IT.:2cents: :squid:
 

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Man, I once saw an F4i with sprockets, pipe, Commander, and chain, and that thing would RIP up straight through 3rd......frightening to think that even 600's can do that now.
 

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I find standups easier if you are in second or third gear. I have a gixxer 1000 so all I have to do is cruise along at about 100-120 K hammer it and up she comes. A bud that rides with me does it on an F4 but he has to give the bike a jerk to get it up in third.
but once you are up and you find out that you can see where you are going , you will love them.
 

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Standies are the shizzy shiz nit. ;) Way more controlled than sit downs imo. I got the R6 up in fourth stock gearing and have witnesses. :D Bunny hopped fifth but it's not coming up in fifth unless you're cresting a hill and you'd be hauling and my balls aren't quite that big. :jawdrop: It is amazing the power the new 600's have and they just get lighter and faster with each redesign.
 

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Ok I wanna see a tape of a stock F4 pullin third gear no bounce or clutch. It simply isn't going to happen.

i've seen a video of a gsxr doing them in third, but i don't remember where, but if my 97hp speed four can do it in 3rd without the clutch, i'm sure it can be done
 

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I learned to do wheelies last spring, but have only been doing seated wheelies. I have wanted to try stand-ups but have been timid about it.

My questions are:
Do you stand up before you give it a "bounce," before you give it throttle, or once you are already up?

Is the balance point going to be higher or lower than when I am seated? I am not sure if I will be able to know it because right now I "feel" it when I am seated. It has to feel completely different standing, am I right?
 
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