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Thanks Tristan-

Elyria is about 30 minutes west of Cleveland.

I rode RT. 83 into Marietta last week and it got pretty cool once we were in the more rural areas.

You said SV, no contest. Based on what? I'm just curious as to see why you put it that way. I've never had a V-twin of any sort so I am really curious to see what that's all about.

'cane

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i'd have to say sv. the kawi is neat, but the sv is just so good. the only reason i didn't buy one myself is because i knew i'd end up with two track bikes.

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Ok, they're not exactly "sportbikes" per se, but I'm thinking of purchasing one of them in the near future. I've used the search feature on both bikes here, I've read as many articles as I can on both, but I'm still no closer to figuring which would turn out the better buy. I respect all of your opinions, so I'd figure what better group of folks to ask?

For the Kawi: looks tough, comfortable riding position (well, in comparison to my bike at least), proven motor, decent all rounder, possibly better for two up on those rare occasions I can coax my wife onto the back, may handle the highway with less stress?

Against the Kawi: Dated motor, will I grow to despise the 8 valver? It's another inline 4, and out of the three bikes I've owned, that's all I've ever had. Not the best power output for a 750, but does it matter?

For the Suzook: All I've heard is FUN, FUN, FUN! Might be cool to try out a V-twin, good riding ergos, very cool looking. Also spoken of as a true all rounder. Makes around the same power as the ZR.

Against the Suzook: Might it be really stressed on the highway? Is it smallish in stature compared to the Kawi? Passenger accomodations look pretty poor. Despite it's fun factor, will I wake up one day and feel it's too small? I dunno...

The kind of riding I do is fairly well mixed. My commute to work is only 5-6 miles each way all 50 mph flat and straight rural type roads. My usual highway jaunts are 20-30 minutes in length, however it would be nice to know longer trips aren't impossible with either of these machines. I really dislike the way my CBR buzzes hard on the highway. It's like it's really working, even though the motor's only at 6000 rpm, and it can do much more than 80 mph. I guess it just seems too uncomfortable and stressed out on the highways. Almost no twisties around, but I'd like to be able to handle them should I ever find some. On weekends, I ride pretty much wherever I want to go which means both highways and urban traffic. I'm 5' 10", and 180-190 lbs.

Obviously, both of these bikes will depreciate very quickly, as most Japanese bikes tend to, so I'll be needing to hang on to it for a decent amount of time. I like these two because both seem to offer a lot for the bucks, which is the absolute most I can eek out right now and probably for a LONG time. And I won't finance a bike that I can only ride 5 mos. out of the year.

Right now, I'm really starting to dig the looks of the ZR7, and I didn't think too much about it at first. However, I'm afraid to commit to it for fear of a queasy feeling every time I see an SV go by. Like "I knew I shoulda tried the V-twin" Or conversly, I might be roosting around on the SV thinking "man, this isn't as comfortable as I thought it was going to be, I shoulda got the bigger Kaw"

I won't be revalving forks or adding suspension bits, and the motors will stay stock except perhaps for a pipe and possibly rejetting. So I'm torn- and test rides around here just don't happen.

So, as is, bone stock- which would you throw a leg over and why? This 5 large is a LOT of money to me, so I'd appreciate your honest input. Yeah I know- "save up and buy an GSXYRZ1500" or whatever, but these two appeal to me more and more than the latest plastic does, and plus, I can't afford the others anyway.

So thanks for the insight!

'cane


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One thing you forgot, and I'd rather have you read about it than me tell you what measly info I know on it. Go to http://www.motorcycle.com and read the article on the New Honda CB600 Hornet. Seems like what you're looking for, and it looks kinda cool too. Check it out, might be the one if you want long-lasting reliability. Keep us posted on what you decide.

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Despite the fact that a Suzuki tried to kill me, I'd have to go with the SV650. I love twins, and I love handling!

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Thanks Brutha-

I dig that Hornet too, I've seen it a bunch of times in the Brit mag BIKE, as it's been around for a couple of years elsewhere. However, that is a Europe- only model. I got kind of excited when I saw the article at MO, but realized it was a British staffer doing the test. No plans for a US bound Hornet unfortunately...

'cane

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SV, no contest. Where is Elyria? SE OH has some killer roads, worth the trip from anywhere in OH.

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Go for the SV. I'm saving up for one myself. Don't go for that same old inline 4, twins are in. I don't know anyone who has ridden the ZR-7, but I've read some ho-hum articles about it. The SV on the other hand, I've talked to two guys who ride theirs almost daily and they had nothing but GREAT things to say about the SV.

Both of these bikes have been out for a year or so now, so look in the classifieds and find some used ones to test ride. You might just find a bargain used one.

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sv... plus i heard that the engine block has lots of xtra metal in it for a big bore kit.. i could be wrong but i believe there is a 750 or 850 kit out there for it somewhere.. anyone remember/know about this?

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I started a topic about the SV in the Suzuki section. I don't remember which identity I was using at the time(JConRC, RCjohn or Cheetos). :rolleyes:

I'll shorten this somewhat. I rode my wife's bike through Deal's Gap Saturday(FYI 318 turns in 11 miles). By the time I got halfway through I was actually LAUGHING OUT LOUD in my helmet. :cool: I felt like a goofball when I realized it as I was taking my helmet off at the end. The people were then laughing at me, especially the few that new I had a $10000 RC 51 back at the campsite.

There is no bike that has that much blast for the buck out there. Some dual sports come close but most are more expensive. This is no slam on the Kawi either. There was one there Sat. but it just didn't have the soul of the SV.

I don't think that the SV value will drop as much as people think. They are very popular on the street and track.

BUY THE SV. The engine sounds great and I haven't seen any better passenger accomodation on any sportbike or semi-sportbike.

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I hate to say this, being the die hard kawasaki guy i am, but in this case i would take the SV650, hands down.

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One of our local riders is selling his SV for under $5k and it would be an excellent shakedown ride home to Ohio (from here in Reno) :p

The SV is a great bike from all reports I've heard.

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I was gonna buy an SV, but got a deal on my VTR for only a $1000 or so more. Definitely would get one of those vs. the Kaw. You can't beat the twins for fun, fun, fun. I've had Fours, and in comparison, they always seem too hyper and strung out, IMO.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Aril, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hurricane:
Thanks Tristan-

Elyria is about 30 minutes west of Cleveland.

I rode RT. 83 into Marietta last week and it got pretty cool once we were in the more rural areas.

You said SV, no contest. Based on what? I'm just curious as to see why you put it that way. I've never had a V-twin of any sort so I am really curious to see what that's all about.

'cane

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The Vtwin vs. 4 has nothing to do with it for me. I always prefer a sportbike that is small, light, and powerful. The ZR is a nice standard, but I would consider the SV a sportbike. The ZR is too heavy and old-tech for my tastes.
Never been on rt. 83. Next time you make it to Marietta, find 555, 676, 26, 260. I'm planning to head down there July 8-9, keep an eye on the "looking" forum.



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Have you looked at the Kaw ZRX1100? I was no fan of the Eddie Lawson green, white, & purple, but the new black & gray is very tough. Kawasaki tuned 'em for low end grunt and they are torquey. I took one for a short run around the block and I wished I could have talked the guy into letting me have it for a whole day. It's also right in the same price range as the SV and the zr-7.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Aril, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Eric Hawkins:
Have you looked at the Kaw ZRX1100? I was no fan of the Eddie Lawson green, white, & purple, but the new black & gray is very tough. Kawasaki tuned 'em for low end grunt and they are torquey. I took one for a short run around the block and I wished I could have talked the guy into letting me have it for a whole day. It's also right in the same price range as the SV and the zr-7.

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In post #1 of this thread Hurricane says he wants to spent around $5K max., so the $7200 ZRX is a little high. I agree it's a lot of bike for the money. It would, however, be sacrilidge to not get the green one!
The real question for Hurricane is: do you want a sportbike that is not too uncomfortable (SV) or do you want a standard that can be coerced into sporting duty (ZRX). To complicate matters further, there are a lot of USED sportbikes for under $5K that would spank either one.



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Tristan-

That's a great way to put it- do I want a sportbike that's comfortable, or a standard that can be "coerced" into sporting duty. Right now, I'm leaning towards the SV. I've never ridden a twin, and that's appealing to me. Plus, I haven't been able to determine in what area- if any- the SV falls short of the Kawasaki. Seems quite the opposite.

You also brought up another interesting point- used bikes for around $5K. I've thought of that too, but I couldn't think of any that would be similar to the SV or ZR7. If you've got any suggestions, I'd be glad to hear them.

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a used buell can be had for not much over 5000 and i got my butt kick by one on the track. actually myself and a hawk owner were talking about how impressive the bike was coming off corners.

just a thought.

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Tony-

Thanks for the suggestion. A used M2 Cyclone would be pretty sweet, I haven't seen many under 7K though... I'll keep it in mind.

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Cane, since your commute and leisure rides are mostly straight, I would go for the SV. Good mid and torque. Never been on one, but they look comfy, and in 2-3 years there will be parts from all the ex-racers' bikes, just in case you need to get some cheap parts in the future...I don't think anyone races a zr7, so you'd have to get new parts if a get-off were to happen. Don't you want to at least own a V-twin before you die, since I-4
is all you have owned, I would give the V a shot.

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