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Some of you may recall my post asking you to realize the true meaning of Memorial Day. Well, in that same patriotic spirit...


Have you ever wondered what happened
to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence?

Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured
before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost
their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons
captured. Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or
hardships of the Revolutionary War.

They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their
sacred honor.

What kind of men were they?
Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists.
Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and
large plantation owners; men of
means, well educated. But they signed the
Declaration of Independence knowing
full well that the penalty would be death if
they were captured.

Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy
planter and trader, saw his
ships swept from the seas by the British
Navy. He sold his home and properties
to pay his debts, and died in rags.

Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the
British that he was forced to
move his family almost constantly. He served
in the Congress without pay, and
his family was kept in hiding. His
possessions were taken from him, and
poverty was his reward.

Vandals or soldiers looted the
properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer,
Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and

At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas
Nelson Jr, noted that the British
General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson
home for his headquarters. He
quietly urged General George Washington to
open fire. The home was destroyed,
and Nelson died bankrupt.

Francis Lewis had his home and
properties destroyed. The enemy jailed
his wife, and she died within a few

John Hart was driven from his wife's
bedside as she was dying. Their
13 children fled for their lives. His
fields and his gristmill were laid
to waste. For more than a year he lived
in forests and caves, returning
home to find his wife dead and his children
vanished. A few weeks later he
died from exhaustion and a broken heart.

Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates.

Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution.

These were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were
soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more.
Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this declaration, with firm reliance on
the protection of the divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other,
our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."

They gave you and me a free and independent America. The history
books never told you a lot about what happened in
the Revolutionary War. We didn't fight just the British. We were British
subjects at that time and we fought our own government!

Some of us take these liberties so much for granted, but we shouldn't.
So, take a few minutes while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and
silently thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they paid.

Remember: freedom is never free! Fly your flags on the fourth. It's time
we get the word out that patriotism is NOT a sin, and the Fourth of July
has more to it than beer, picnics, and baseball games.

"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well preserved piece, but to skid across the line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, shouting GERONIMO!"

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AND its my birthday!! :)

Seriously Pete, that was some good info. to point out. It saddens me to think that I dont believe people have that kind of strengthor dedication these days. If you wanted my opinion, its about damn time for another revolution, but people are just to weak, lazy, comfy and short of honor. Unfortunately, with the world now-a-days, we are just drones for the ever powerful government. :(

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[This message has been edited by riverrunner_2000 (edited June 30, 2000).]

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I'm with you Pete. :)

And we have a draft dodging socialist as the President of the country they gave it all up for. :mad:

See the lawyers have been raising Hell for years. ;)

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Gosh Pete, i mean im a Republican and all and cant WAIT until the slimey ass dems are out of the White house but damn dude that was a novel you wrote, when i get home ill have to log back on and read it all. (some of us read SBW at work and .... well u know...)


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I'm with you completely Pete.
Most times I feel like the average American could care less about the things that have been given to them as a privilege. If it wasn't for a handful of people 200 years ago, we might still be sittin around drinking tea and eating crumpets at 4:00 :D


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"Losers always whine about their best, winners go home and f**k the prom queen!" - Sean Connery

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RedNinja:
Losers always whine about their best, winners go home and f**k the prom queen!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

First off: She (Carla) WAS the Prom Queen...! :D

On the serious side:
Pete man, that is awesome what you wrote. It totally makes me even more proud of my country and what those men did those many years ago. I think that it is completely wrong the way people blatantly disregard the sacrifices made for us so we can have what we do now. We need to honor the memories of those who gave the ULTIMATE sacrifice not only for us, but for future generations to come. Now let's just get someone in the White House who will reflect the ideals set forth for us 225 years ago!

Threads like this make me all the more proud to not only be a part of such a great nation, but also to know people like you all, who know what is important in life and who can be serious amidst all the fun and humor. God bless on this July 4th...remember what it's all about as you enjoy what you've been given!

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my Bruthas AND Sistas!!!

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great post.. thats all im gonna say cause i dont have the time to post my 500 page report on what i think is wrong w/america today. happy 4th. if u dont mind.. i copied your post & will be spreading it around on the other forums i visit.


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You guys don't think that I wrote that, do you? It's something that was sent to me a year or so ago. My apologies for misleading you if that's what I did. I won't take credit where it is not due, especially on the Internet where it is so easy to get busted! :D

Further note (I only found this out minutes ago): Some of the instances in this story have been debunked (i.e., proven to be not 100% true). Nonetheless, the message still stands.

"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well preserved piece, but to skid across the line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, shouting GERONIMO!"

Discussion Starter · #10 ·
ROFLMAO!!! Good one, John!

"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well preserved piece, but to skid across the line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, shouting GERONIMO!"

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That was very interesting and informative! I did not know all of that! Makes me proud! Happy Independance day! :)

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I know this is a tad late for all of ya'll up North.... But since we are celebrating Nations here... Today is CANADA DAY!! So...


And Pete.... Drink a Bud for me on July 4th will ya... Normally I'd be sitting outside watching the bug zapper with ma' fmaily, sweatin ma' ass off, and having a BBQ... But, well, you know the story... This little girl is way, waaaaaayyyyy up North now... We don't have bugs... too cold...


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Thanks for making people stop and think, Pete.

Happy 4th of July, everyone! :)

Happy Birthday, Kyle!! :D

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Thanks for the wake up call Pete. I don't think there is anything wrong with Clinton, he's done a good job. Sure he tried drugs, but so did George W. Bush. Sure he's a draft dodger, but so is George W. Bush. Sure he was messing around with an intern half his age, but what red-blooded American man married to a wench like Hillary and in the midst of a mid-life crises wouldn't. I have tried drugs, would dodge the draft if it were for some God-forsaken country that didn't even want freedom, but my wife is great so I have no need for other women. :)

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Thanks Pete, thats one of my fav's around the fourth.

Definition of a Hero: "People who do what needs to be done, when it needs to be done regardless of the consequences"

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Your attitude that the things Clinton has done being okay scares me. :eek: Not that it matters. Clinton hasn't done a damn thing but desimate our military. The military doesn't even have the parts to keep the active equipment safe. Our economy was on the upswing before Clinton even took over. He never did anything for Arkansas(I grew up there).

As for draft dodging. I am a veteran. Clinton went to Moskow and protested against the USA. War is not for everyone and some people had to go to college but they didn't need to show support for the Communists that were supplying the enemy.

I will leave this alone because I could debate this for hours being from the Hot Springs, Ark. area. Everyone has an opinion just some are supported by more facts. ;)

Colin please take no offense in this. You have a right to your opinion and I respect it very much. :cool: It still scares me. :D :D

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Let me start by saying as far as my country
goes - I am glad that I live in a place with
beautiful skies, oceans, land etc.. If a
patron lives inside of me, that is how he
lives - not for what happened in a past that
I can't clearly encompass.

- However -

We are very lucky, all of us here and when
things aren't PERFECT we tend to bitch and
loose sight of the things that really matter.
Freedom, Health, Friends, Love, Family etc.
Whether or not the story that Pete posted is
falable or not - it makes me think. I can
wake up on a Saturday and within reasonable
limits I can do ANYTHING I want.
Unquestioned. I can jump on the R1 and be
gone until my ass hurts and I want to leave
the thing in a bush and walk home. We are
all very lucky, simply for being BORN here.
We could have been born anywhere, in a
starving, struggling 3rd world country. But
by the roll of the dice we are here, not only
that but we all have SPORTBIKES and food.
If you take the time to be thankful for the
basics that you have, everthing else seems
like a bonus. This will make for one hell
of a happy attitude. Relish your freedom NOW
before it's too late. Life is too short.
Remeber those who gave there lives so that
yours could be free and try not to tailgate
those slow disable verterans on this
Tuesday!! :D :D

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by colin409:
Thanks for the wake up call Pete. I don't think there is anything wrong with Clinton, he's done a good job ... Sure he was messing around with an intern half his age, but what red-blooded American man married to a wench like Hillary and in the midst of a mid-life crises wouldn't.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was sent this today and thought I would share. Just my .02 but it gets a little old when someone says he(President Clinton)is only a man just like anyone else. I'm sorry but he quit being just a man when he raised his hand and took the Oath of office.
709,000 regular (active duty) service personnel
293,000 reserve troops
Eight standing Army divisions
20 Air Force and Navy air wings with 2,000 combat aircraft
232 strategic bombers
13 strategic ballistic missile submarines with 3,114 nuclear warheads on 232 missiles
500 ICBMs with 1,950 warheads
Four aircraft carriers and 121 surface combat ships and submarines, plus all the support bases, shipyards and logistical assets needed to sustain such a naval force.


Is this country Russia? . . . No
Red China? . . . No
Great Britain? . . . Wrong Again
USA? . . . You are still wrong
Give up??
Well, don't feel too bad if you are unable to identify this global superpower, because this country no longer exists. It has vanished.
These are the American military forces that HAVE DISAPPEARED since the 1992 election of Bill Clinton and Al Gore. Sleep well, America

"The only thing worse than regret is not trying"

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Thanks for that information. I will copy it and distribute.

I served two years of my 9 years in the Navy under that "Commander and Chief". It was amazing the damage that he did in just those two years and according to my former "shipmates" it has continued on an exponential decline. Part of why I decided against making it a career. :(

I now work at one of the Department of Energy sites where his administration has made a mockery of National Security. Everyone should start working on their Chinese speaking if we put Gore at the top. :mad:

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I'm still on active duty and see the damage Clinton has reeked every day. Gore would just be more of the same.
Hey Colin, how do you figure Bush is a draft dodger? I guess the air guard was not really a part of our military forces. As a fighter pilot he could have easily been sent overseas. I don't know to many F4 pilots that are/were draft dodgers. Clinton protested against our government in a foreign country. Thats downright traitoreous!
As for you being a draft dodger, well that speaks for itself!

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