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Do you use it on your bike? What's a good, reliable one, and what would be the detection range and accuracy? How did you set it up on your bike, and how much? Thanks. I think along with gears to wear, it's one of the must have for a sportbike.
 

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I've been looking around at them for a while, wanting to get one as well. My tech teacher has gone through several so I'll get some reviews off him. As for wiring it they unit, they usually run off a 12volt cigarett lighter plug, so I was just going to go down to my local auto store and pick one up for 5 bucks and wire it to the battery, though a 10amp fuse. They also come with little window mounting harnesses, that are suction cups, but I was gunna drill a set of holes in my windscreen and bolt it on. It needs to be set as high as you can so it can pick up the signal. Most detectors cost less than my average ticket, $200, so its a wise investment in my book. Make sure you get just a detector, not a scrambler. Your allowed to have a detector in FL, but the scramblers are illegal... and easy to detects by the cops.

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Hi All-

What about one of those wireless radar detectors. One of my friends used a model called a "SOLO" but that's about all I know about it. Couldn't tell you about the performance, but the lack of wires sure made for a clean install.

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The problem I see with those is that they would lack power and therefore lack the ability to pick up the signal, but they do make for a very clean install. I haven't looked at them closely though. You just need to make sure that you pull it off your bike when you park it, or someone will steal it, but thats the same for any detector really.

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Hi SepiasSoul-

Yup, kind of like the difference between running a laptop computer off the battery as compared to having it plugged-in to an outlet. Everything works more efficiently with a better and cleaner supply of power.

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My friend swears by the Valentine brand radar/laser detectors. ( i wanna say it is V1 model or something).
they are pricey, 300$ i think...but he has NEVER gotten caught, and he is never under 100 on the highway.

it is nice because it has arrows pointing which direction the signal is comming from (infront or behind you).
 

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well let me clarify.to my understanding you can really "detect" a laser hit until it actaually hits you...then this thing goes crazy and you can hope to get off on the next exit or sidestreet and loose the cop haha....not that hes done that before or anything;)
 

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You can or can't? I'm sorry I didn't understand. I have very little knowledge about it, except I see quite a few ricers and Evo owners carry them around. Fact that they're pitifuly speeding often and still probably don't get pulled over as much, seems to indicate it works somewhat.

But if you're saying that the detector can't pickup the signal until it hits the speeding vehicle, then it would be pointless. By then the cop would've already picked up the current speed. I figured it works by picking up a random signal emitted into the air from the radar in a patrol car.
 

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It depends on the detector and the type of gun the cop is using. If its a radar gun then the detector will pick up the stray microwaves from other cars the cop has aimed at. If the cop is using a laser detector, like the handheld guns, then it wont go off until the laser hits you. The good news is, most police cars only have the radar version and the lasers are usually just used at speed traps. The overall range of detection isn't fantastic with them, usually its about a 10 second heads up at most. If your in a car its not enough time to really react and slow down, but on a bike you can just about stop in that amount of time.

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yeah sorry, to my understanding a laser beam that measures your speed does not really spread out the signal like a radar.
think of like a laser pointer....the red dot is focused more than say a light bulb...if that makes sense.

and therefore can NOT be detected ahead of time, until it actually hits you.

so, it could possibly give you a little help, knowing you may be able to duck off the road you are on...but you are right...not as much protection from radar.
 

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My friends all have the escort 8500 x50, it is awesome. I was going to purchase one today actually, but im trying to figure out some ways I can mount it on my bike before buying it. The valentine one i have never seen in action, but they cost $4000. Ive been told that by time the alarm goes off, the cop will most likely already be pulling out to get you.


What was said above was true, If there is a speedtrap, or a cop using a laser gun. The radar detectors look for signals bouncing off other cars that he has been pointing it at. from what ive seen, the x50 can detect signals up to a couple miles at the very least when there are a average amount of cars.

It also works pretty good when there is very little or no cars on the road at all, but you still need to be careful. if your the only one on the road, and the cop is using a laser, the only noise your going to hear is when it bounces off of you. (basicially telling you to run like hell :cool: )

As for regular detections, it works pretty well and you can generally tell when acop is in the area, reguardless of wether or not he is using his radar. if he left it on and locked to a certain speed only. you will be notified.
 

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My tech teacher drives like a bat out of hell and his favorite brands are the older models by Uniden and Passport. I wouldn't go cordless though, the lack of power to the unit will be a problem.

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Just to clarify and help out. The V1 you are referring, AKA Valentine1, is a an expensive but great radar detector. I know of a couple people that have one and they love it. I've been in cars that have V1's and I must say they are freaking awesome. If I had a fast car, I would get one. Heh, I may even get one now just so I don't get caught. They ARE expensive however. Not $200 or $300, more like $400 for one. I'm telling you it's worth every penny. The V1 also has directional arrows, telling you if the radar signal is coming from in front of you, the sides, or behind you. It's DEFINITELY helpful and you won't be frantically looking everywhere to find the cop.

The main rival with the V1 is the Passport 8500 (I believe that's the right number). While they are both good, I prefer the V1 to the Passport. One friend has a passport 8500 and one has a V1. The V1 just seems to work better.

I know a guy that uses a V1 on his motorcycle and loves it and it just gives me another reason to believe in V1 over anything else.

All in all, the the V1 and the Passport 8500 are both good but the V1 always has gotten more praise than the Passport 8500. Hope this helps.
 

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Besides being illegal in all of Cdn., along with some states another drawback is it is hard to hear the little beep-beep & if you are constantly looking at the radar detector to flash its red warning like then you are with your nose at the radar detecror to often rathen being the road.

Way back I pleaded with some of the radar detector people to come out with a warning red light to be with a suction cup that can fit on the mirror, windshield, or the fairing. THEN it would be so obviouse as it flashed. None took me up on said suggestion.

Thing is we were in the STV business & selling radar detectors so I had good connections though still my ideas landed on deaf ears.
 

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Most of the detectors now have flashing LED's on their face when they detect something. I was planning on placing mine on my windsheild so I could see it out of the bottom of my eye. Plus I would see it easily, and wouldn't forget to remove it when I got off:twofinger

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Sorry I'm late :D

I've been looking into this for sometime, and still undecided. Here are the few things I found as well as other thoughts.

Google up radar ron, he is some ex LEO that does nothing but tests detectors. lots of good reviews. The guy swears by valantines, as does anyone else I ever hears.

Battery operated detectors are not going to work as well as corded ones. Not only do they not have as much power to begin with, but the voltage also drops over time. Amplifiers are very sensative to their supply voltage.

There are several different radar bands as well as lasers used by LEO's. The older radar bands are rather useless against bikes, because they tend to lock on the biggest object around. Older radars were also "always on" thus easy to detect. Later bands switched on demand, but are still detectable. Lasers are detectable too, when they reflect off the car in front of you. But the car in front of you has to be hit first.

While its illegal to use radar jammers, laser jammers are fair game. There are a number of "legal" radar jammers who use a whole lot of marketing and do about as much as a brick. A very shiney expansive brick.

Some detectors have a motorcycle accessory. Its a small helmet mounted light/buzzer. To me that would be a necessity, since I dont think I'm going to see or hear the detector on my bars.

Mounting a detector is also a big concern. For ultimate effectivness, the best place to mount it would be the top of the helmet (which would look abit silly). However, one must come to terms with the fact that everyone gets caught sometimes. Every LEO I've talked to (with the exception of one who is a member of this board) has informed me that they will cut no slack to anyone that has a detector. To them its an admission of guilt, and in a way that makes sense. The only solution I came up with was mounting the detector inside the ram air vent. It would be pretty invisible there, and still get a clear view of the road ahead. No you wont loose much power over it.

Which brings my to the final point, of effectivness. I dont speed in towns, ever. On highways there are two kinds of speeding. there is the 80 in a 70 speeding, which a detector will warn you about, but chances are no one is going to pull you over in the first place, and if they do, you can probly talk your way out of it by acting like a responcible adult instead of a pissed of child (kissing ass helps too). Then there is the 130 in a 70 speeding, in which case a radar detector isnt going to do you any good. Even if you do slow down in time, the cop is going to know something is up, and most are not above making up speeds (remember the 204mph RC51?). If you are going to travel at that rate of speed, your best defence is knowing the road.
Example. I have a friend who lives 10 miles outside of town. I used to speed to his house all the time. Here is what I figured. If I get busted, the cop is going to be facing the opposite way, because I'm not stupid enough to come up on one without slowing down. At 120mph, I'm covering a mile every 30 seconds. The cop in question has to slow down to almost a stop, turn around, and then speed up. Most do not have rossi like reflexes so I'm giving them over a minute to accomplish that manuver. By this time, I'm 2 miles away and gaining, so all I really have to watch out for is the radio. Luckily, my destination is near, and I'm probly going home free, with a very high heartbeat.
 

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80 in a 70 in FL is more than enough reason for a cop to pull you over on a bike. Its happened to me before, as I was being passed by other cars. It comes down to how far your going, how often you make the trip, and how pissy the cops in the area are. Driving from my house into Tampa, its rare not to pass 10 cops who love to pull you. But I agree with you Vash, its depends on the situation.

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