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I would like to know how many of you out there have radar detectors wired up to their bikes? I am looking to wire up a Valentine One to an F4i, so any coments or suggestions would be appreciated. What you think the best way to go about it is, or what has worked for you. Thank you in advance.
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I wonder how you would keep it from getting stolen. I know if I saw a V1 sitting out I would certainly have bad thoughts.
 

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I would be sure to take it with me, the same thing I do with my V1 in my car. I would also like to add that anyone who has wired up any kind of radar detector should feel free to respond. I am interested to hear how many just go unprotected and how many have detectors. Really anything about the subject would interest me. I see/hear about radar detectors in cars all the time, but not the same with bikes. Doesn't really make sense consider how much easier it is to speed on a bike.
 

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I am interested to hear how many just go unprotected and how many have detectors..... I see/hear about radar detectors in cars all the time, but not the same with bikes. Doesn't really make sense consider how much easier it is to speed on a bike.
i think that's the answer. at 140+mph what kind of chance does the fuzz stand of catching you? myself, i don't care for gambling. also at that speed if you did have radar, would you be able to get it back under the posted limit before the po-po lock on? and braking that hard at those speeds a patch of dirt can rearrange your whole life style. you know things like eating solid food, walking, not peeing through a tube.
 

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Typically when you're doing 140+, usually your doing it in a fairly staight area. The V1 can pick up a radar signal over a couple miles away giving you plenty of time to slow to legal speeds. But with the V1, you're still not totally covered, there's instant on and laser that you still have to worry about and I see more and more of those all the time. But, I think the V1 is more useful if you like to cruise around at 80-90 and just want to know when to slow it down. And I never leave it out in the open when I park it, either it comes with me or it's locked away.
 

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What about the Escort 8500?? I heard that was another good detector. Just curious..
 

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In my experience and magazine review reading nothing can touch the Valentine One!! It tells you how many radar sources, how strong the signal is, what direction it is coming from (front, side, behind), what kind of radar (X,K,KA, and Laser) not to mention it is invisible to VG2's (radar detector detectors). Now add the fact that it is smarter and has a longer range than any other detector and it just wins hands down. Still waiting to hear any responses that tell how people have mounted theirs.
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I found a site awhile back, but cannot seem to remember it. They had clamps/stands for radar detectors. As far as wiring, when I get mine, I am going to hard wire it in somewhere. Not sure yet, but will figure something out when that time comes. I will keep my eyes open for that site.

Hope that helps.
 

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I had a radar detector mounted in my 92 FZR600, and it worked most of the time. It won't save you from a cop who is purposely tracking your speed, but from the cops who drive around with the radar on constantly or are hanging out in the median with the radar on for traffic control. So hopefully you won't go blasting past a cop going the other way. Oh BTW, I had a problem with the first detector I had for it with the laser detection, whenever my bike was running it would trip the laser detection and the signal strength got stronger when I revved the engine. So I had to get one without laser protection. Like anyone needs that anyways. Did'ya ever wonder why the major radar and laser detector manufacturers are also the ones who make radar and laser guns for police? Here's your disease and here's your cure.
 

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I would not waste my money or time using a radar detector on my bike, put it in your cage. Here in North Carolina, the State Highway Patrol uses a system called "VASCAR" which measures your speed from point A to point B by how many seconds you travel a certain distance and it holds up in court. Anyway, I see very, very few bikes (almost none in the last year) on the side of the road with Blue Lights on behind it, unless it has crashed. Tom
 

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In someplaces up in Ohio they have the highway painted in certain length patches. Helicopters fly above the highway and measure your speed by (as tbozeman said) how quickly you get from point a to b. Then they radio ahead to police who pull you over. A friend of mine got nailed this way in his Camaro, and he said they pulled over 2 more people while he was sitting there watching.

So HEADS UP
 

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Thanks everyone for your help/opinions! I was particularly interested in the laser detection going off because of rpm's from the bike. Sure hope that isn't the case with the valentine!! I found a site that has mounting clips called http://www.saeng.com/ Hopefully this will work. Can't be careless because of instant on, but it helps in my town where they leave it on.
 

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Thank you Zimmer!! That was very helpful. I feel confident that I will be able to hook up the V1 just the way I want. :D
 

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VASCAR....

Vascar is such crap.. It stands for Visual Average Speed Computer And Recorder. In my opinion it should be called Vague And Spurious Calculations At Random. I have an interesting story for you....

I'm cruising down I-45 to San Antonio, minding my own business, and minding the national limit cuz' I know there are plod that like to frequent this particular patch of 6 lane. I'm just about to pull off to get some human fuel, and the fuzz appears out of nowhere and unsereptitiously hands me an 85 in a 65 ticket. Now naturally being curious as to how my bike was going twenty miles an hour faster than it was telling me, I asked to see his radar or laser and daily calibration record. He cheerfully explains to me, the mere mortal, that he is equipped with VASCAR *duh-duhh* and yes it had been calibrated that morning. I refuse to sign what I know is a bunk ticket, take some of the wind from his sails, he threatens me with cop talk, etc, etc..

So I get back home and decide to do some research on this VASCAR *duh-duhh*, coz' I have the Internet at my disposal. Basically the cop keys in the distance between two "reference points" on the road be they road signs, donuts, trees, shadows, etc.. He hit's the little button when you pass the first "reference point" and again when you pass the second. Beep boop broop.. Distance over time equals average speed. Hmm.. Looks like I'm fighting this one.

I get to court and find out that blue boy was over a mile in front of me (me, on a little blue YZF-R1) driving at approximately the national limit, and "observing my progress" (I love cop talk) through the "reference points" in his rear view mirror. Next time your in a cage, try observing anything a mile away in your rearview at 65mph for any given length of time, much less a bike with a very small frontal area.. In addition to that, I learn that the VASCAR *duh-duhh* system was only a test program, and that blue boy had only been using the system for three days..

To cut it short, the guy with the gavel tells me to leave before blue boy makes any more of a fool out of himself, and I pull a massive wheelie leaving the court parking lot...Muhaha
 

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vector4 said:
I wonder how you would keep it from getting stolen. I know if I saw a V1 sitting out I would certainly have bad thoughts.
well... Obviosly, your location says you live in L.A.
 

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Good for you Mark! Our little "blue boys" here in NC got their S*&^ together and those VASCAR tickets "stick" in court, but ours wear silver and black, avoid donuts, etc. etc. But here in Carolina you rarely find a silver and black State Trooper behind a motorcycle unless it has crashed and he or she is calling for an ambulance or (coroner). Some of my friends are LEO's and ride bikes, they ain't that bad. Tom
 

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Instant on radar foils detectors

Here in CO the state patrol uses "instant-on" radar, which is not emitting radar until they activate it. Since it only takes a moment to get a speed reading, the detector will do no good unless you get a bleep when he's clocking cars ahead of you.

I have radar detectors in or on every vehicle I own (5 with four wheels, two bikes) but they won't save me from instant-on. I'll admit I've been saved a couple of tickets in the last 10 years, but the best detector is your eyes. The detectors are a marginal "safety blanket" for me. They are going off all over town these days.

I also have a couple of detectors that do laser, but that's pretty much a joke too, since the beam is so small that if it hits you, you're gone anyway. They say it will pick up the light scatter when the cop hits the car ahead with it, but that's probably not too reliable.

Cops have to be stationary to use laser or VASCAR (except for planes which VASCAR) but can be moving to use most common radar. We even have a motorcycle cop here with mobile radar. That dirty guy. Fortunately, he rides an '80s air-cooled Kawasaki that will get sucked up my exhaust pipe if he tries to catch me.;)
 

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Well speaking of all this radar, instant on, and laser talk, I thought I would share my most recent experience.
I just got back from driving out to Michigan and back, here is what I found. A cop using X band instant on that pulled over the car in front of me. However the most interesting to me was the laser. I was traveling with my Dad who was in the car behind me. He has a valentine and so do I. I came over a hill and my valentine went mental!! Laser hit me from a State Trooper (Z28) up ahead. I asked my Dad if he got that laser detection being right behind me and he said NO! Bottom line, we gotta use our heads because if we don't it is blind luck! Laser and Instant on are the biggest reasons to be careful.
However, all those people who might think the Valentine isn't worth it, I would say it identified about 12 cops before I ever saw them. There may have been more but at least that many. Worth the money!!! Keep your eyes pealed and your Valentine's on!
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