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I've noticed we have alot of new members on
the site latley and I would like to share a
few things that I think are important and I
wish someone had told me when I first started
riding. If I had been armed with this
information I probably wouldn't have a heal
in 20 pieces and several other arthritic bones
in my right foot.

I've learned that over confidence is a KILLER.
It goes for experts, intermediates, new riders.
Keep yourself in check, don't let your emotions
control your ride, always think first.
Tire Pressure! The largest factor in my worst
accident was tire pressure. Use the factory
specs NOT the tire's sidewall specs.
There's a place and time for all kinds of riding.
Don't be foolish in congested areas. Patience
is definitley a virue when it comes to riding.
Wait for the right place to push your limits
if that's what you want you want to do.
Don't take your eyes off the road!! This one
got me too once - 1 second is too long.
I try to round a road once to check for gravel,
sand etc before I turn around and rail on it.
For bigger bore bikes, chain tension is important
also. To loose and on/off throttle in corner
entry can get hairy.

Ok, that's it, I'm done. Please undertand
I'm not trying to preach, I remind myself of
these things EVERY time I ride, I've seen
and heard of way too many accidents latley,
if any of this advice can help than that
makes my millineum.

Take Care and Enjoy! :D
Chris


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Definitely a good thread/topic. I would add to this to say that anyone else who has any info for newbies should insert their wisdom. The more info, the less accidents. After what's been happening as of late, it seems like we could ALL use some refresher courses.

Anyway, add to this what you can. It will benefit all of us.

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Let me add another law of sport riding to Chris's list.

Ride ahead of your motorcycle. Dont let your motorcycle ride ahead of you. When you get in over your head you have abandoned the helm and are letting the bike take the lead.

Not to be confused with "scanning" your environment, which is another good technique,
this technique can best be described as keeping your eyes far enough ahead to SEE, PROCESS and REACT to as much of THE TURN that is coming up as possible. (**NOT** the road surface 3 feet in front of your bike!!!)

An example of NOT doing this is "target fixation", as when you are heavy into a turn and suddenly you notice the turn is alot more sharp than you had initially expected, and lookout, a guard rail getting closer and closer.... The technique? Forget about that guard rail and LOOK to where you WANT to go. (around the turn).. you WILL go to what you look at. look at the guard rail and yer there.

This technique, when properly applied, will keep your mind and control well "ahead" of the bike as it flys through the twisties.. YOU are controlling the bike, the bike is not controlling you.

*****If you are hot into a corner, CANT see it, and DONT KNOW the particular road, you ARE setting yourself up for some very probable asphault surfing****

In my first few years of riding I had one pretty destructive accident and several CLOSE calls because of target fixation. I learned the hard way.

Anyone care to help explain this concept more feel free... It is a great one and it will undoubtedly save your hide one day if you ride hard.

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Hey, I've got some good advice- buy yourself a new 600, ride it for a few months, then wreck it (a low-side at 20-30 mph should do it). Voila! now you're ready for that 900+ sportbike you really wanted in the first place!
Sorry Brutha, I couldn't resist. :) :) :) :) :)

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As I've been riding (motos) for only a year, I found Keith Code's Twist of the Wrist-II a very valuable book when I wanted to learn how to go faster and be safe doing it. My wife was not a good conversation partner in these discussions, so the book let me go to class each evening and learn from a pro. I have read it two or three times in the past year and pointed out particular sections I thought my wife could really use. Money well spent.

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A technique that I've been practicing with great results is accelerating through corners... even intersections.

I've noticed that just by applying a bit of throttle (just enough to take the weight off the front end) makes your cornering much easier, smoother, and feels safer. I found this to be easier with low revs, and entering the corner slower than normal.

Watch those exit speeds though... they tend to be a lot faster! So be ready for that next corner to come up quickly. :)

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Aril, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tristan:
Hey, I've got some good advice- buy yourself a new 600, ride it for a few months, then wreck it (a low-side at 20-30 mph should do it). Voila! now you're ready for that 900+ sportbike you really wanted in the first place!
Sorry Brutha, I couldn't resist.

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Seriously man, that hurt. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming there was no ill-intent there. The lack of smilies leads me to believe otherwise, but like I said, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

BTW: It was my third street bike and I didn't lowside, I highsided @40mph. Hell, I wish I had lowsided...might still have a ride.

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Lost to the Blacktop God. 4,699 miles in under 3 mos. $8,300 worth of damage to my one and only baby. On the brighter side: Can you say 929rr???

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Brutha, I have inserted smilies in my previous post just for you. You've been here long enough that you should be used to my smartass posts by now! If you get a new bike this year, break it in quick so we can hook up for a ride.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Aril, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tristan:
Brutha, I have inserted smilies in my previous post just for you. You've been here long enough that you should be used to my smartass posts by now<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

True, I should be used to it, but that's still a REAL sensitive subject for me. Sorry for bein' a baby, but I lost my baby and it still hurts :(. So that's much better Tris. See, the smilies make everything different. Thanks bro, now I can sleep...hehehe! ;) :D

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2000 CBR600F4 -
Lost to the Blacktop God. 4,699 miles in under 3 mos. $8,300 worth of damage to my one and only baby. On the brighter side: Can you say 929rr???

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WeLL everybody..i am pretty well a newbie to sportbike ridingmyself.. and have been riding almost everyday for the past three months.. im 21 and today was the first day i dropped my biike~!.. well.. dropped is about right.. i was turning around in the dirt at muholland hwy on latiago canyon rd..off kanaan dume.. and juss as i came to a stop, i went to grab the brake, and turn to talk to my freind. But i guess the bike was still a little cocked over and thass roight .. it went over at about a 1.5 mph.. i didnt' even fall over.. juss got right off the bike... it happened so fass i dint' even realize what happened.. anyways.. my point is you can lay a bike down anywhere, anytime, and its no fun.. i was lucky...not everybody is so fortunate.. so be careful and dress properly.. and juss for the records.. i was wearing a leather agv jacket and gloves.. wit some jeans on.. glad i didnt' have to use them today..


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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Aril, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Spitfire:
That was just so beautiful...{a crying smilie would work here, but I don't know where to find one}

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Here ya go!!



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Good post chris_y2k_r1. I've never heard a motorcycle crash story that started.... The guy was going the posted speed and riding cautiously.....

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Dave's tips for the week: :D

I'll second the one about look where you want to go. You see stories about motorcyclists (and cage drivers too) frequently embedding themselves in lamp-post etc. On corners these are few and far between. You generally have to be trying or real unlucky to hit one. If you fixate on it, you will hit it!

Respect wet roads.

Always leave yourself a way out. One day I came flying around a corner, only to find that just around the bend was a tractor going about 20kph (which is practically standing still), and an oncomming car. This situation almost ended in tears, but luck was with me, and I managed to avoid both, but lesson learned.

Watch out for those cage drivers. If they are slowing down, if they are driving slowly, its usually for a reason (like they are about to pull a U-turn infront of you (this one has happened to me - and it didn't look pretty, wrote off the bike and all, not to mention broke my arm).

Lastly: don't stop learning. That licence you hold in your hand does not say 'your motorcycle learning phase is over'. It's a licence to learn!

Keep the rubber side down guys! :)


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1) Be VEWY VEWY AFWAID of Woads with intersections, driveways or parked cars.
Okey, that was too much, just be VERY VERY CAREFUL when you're on these roads, be alert. Never drive at high speeds on them. Ride fast on the big highways, but never on your town's main ave. Remember, cars don't always stop on stop signs or red lights.

I've been involved in numerous car accidents involving the other driver running a stop sign. Several times I barely missed hitting cars running red lights. So when I started riding, I automatically adopted my car driving style, being extra alert while approaching intersections.

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Thanks guys! oh yeah there's one more I'd like
to add...

# whatever) Don't ride like me!!! :D :D

Chris


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What's the best way to control the tendency for the new fuel injected bikes to be choppy when exiting a corner and going back on throttle?

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Here's a couple for the newbs. Don't nail the throttle as soon as the light turns green. Wait a second,---- make sure the other cars are going to stop before you bolt out into the intersection. Be extra cautious through the intersection THEN (if conditions allow) Nail It..
An extra sec. or two could save your ass.
Also, when riding in traffic I try to position myself where I can see the person next to me's face in their side mirror, Then I can see them and they can see me. If I don't get eye contact from them, sometimes I will goose the throttle a bit and jump up beside them so they see me and then fall back into position. Don't EVER ride in another vehicles blind spot.

Another thing I have become very aware off recently is when you are approaching a stop light and for whatever reason there is only 2 cars in your lane and 15 (or whatever) in the lane next to you. Be very cautious when passing those cars because any one of them could bolt out all of the sudden with little or no warning in order to gain a more desirable position for the green light. (we've all done it)
If you get into the habit of doing these lttle things EVERYTIME, pretty soon it becomes second nature and you don't really even think about it anymore. You "Just Do It"

- DON'T FORGET...EVERYONE IS TRYING TO KILL YOU!- :)

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