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I'm sure everyone has had the lovely experience of shifting through the gears or braking hard, when all of a sudden you get clocked from behind by your passengers helmet. Now, I have only been a passenger on a motorcycle, maybe 2 times in my life. It was on a 78 Honda Hawk so I don't know if it can be compared to the slumped over style of a sport bike, but are passengers idiots or something? I had NO problem what so ever keeping my head from knocking into the drivers head while on the back. Why is it such a tough thing for some people. Give a little space and just relax.
Last night, riding around for about an hour with my girlfriend, she must have hit the back of my helmet over 10 times! I started getting upset and she told me that she just couldn't tell when I was going to shift, or brake.
What are you experiences and how did you solve the problem. Foam bumper on the back of your head? Ditch the passenger? Use an old helmet when riding with them? Throw them an elbow when ever they do it?

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Last night, riding around for about an hour with my girlfriend, she must have hit the back of my helmet over 10 times! I started getting upset and she told me that she just couldn't tell when I was going to shift, or brake.
What are you experiences and how did you solve the problem. Foam bumper on the back of your head? Ditch the passenger? Use an old helmet when riding with them? Throw them an elbow when ever they do it?-Kemosabe
Dude. You're havin' fun and don't even know it.
 

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Quick shift - don't rev the engine up through the rpms. A lot smoother and less head smacks. If it's a real pain in the butt, get an aftermarket seat with a detachable backrest - that way she can lean back without worrying about eating the pavement.
 

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I'm sure everyone has had the lovely experience of shifting through the gears or braking hard, when all of a sudden you get clocked from behind by your passengers helmet
-Kemosabe
Sorry to tell you this, but the problem is most likely with you. You need to shift and brake more smoothly when you have a passenger on the back. Practice shifting with as little perceptible lurch as possible next time you're by yourself. You may need to give it a few more revs than you usually do and let the clutch out slower than you usually do.

It's possible that the seating positions are just such that her helmet is simply closer to yours in a normal riding position than it was on the Hawk. You should, however, be able to counteract it with careful throttle and clutch control.

Good luck!
 

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Chris_VTR said:


Sorry to tell you this, but the problem is most likely with you. You need to shift and brake more smoothly when you have a passenger on the back. Practice shifting with as little perceptible lurch as possible next time you're by yourself. You may need to give it a few more revs than you usually do and let the clutch out slower than you usually do.

It's possible that the seating positions are just such that her helmet is simply closer to yours in a normal riding position than it was on the Hawk. You should, however, be able to counteract it with careful throttle and clutch control.
Good luck!
Bingo.

But I was hoping no one would say that so that he would dump her and maybe she could hook up with me.
 

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Spoiled gf

Kudos for having the extra lid for your girl.

The problem isn't your girlfriend.

Sportbikes are different than regular motorcycles. Your passenger is stretched around you in a prone position, usually with insufficient upper body strength to support herself for extended periods of time. Your helmets are naturally within close proximity to each other, making it difficult for the passenger to see around the driver's fat head. She can't see what's going on and can't anticipate your every move.

You're the one accelerating/braking/driving so erratically that she is helpless to stop it. IF you can't slow your bike down without her helmet banging yours, you're going too fast. If you can't accelerate without her helmet banging yours, you're accelerating too hard/shifting too slow. Maybe you can safely manage the speed, that's not the point. Your girl may be getting fatigued or just be unable to support herself when you stop so quick, it's like doing a full pushup unexpectedly. Have a little compassion.

IF you're getting upset, she's likely MORE irritated: She's trying to be cool and share your interest, but you're causing the problems and getting mad at her for it.

Cut her some slack and quit ruining the girl for the next cool guy with a bike!
 

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I realize that there are things I could do to make it smoother. I can do them, and have in the past. I could simply wait till the bike catches up with the amount of throttle I have given it, and then shift. It's much more fun to roll through the gears with some power shifting and get a little fun out of it. She understands what she can do to help the situation and does it....just very infrequently. I just don't want to put put around like I am on a cruiser.
I understand all of your solutions, but those are the ones I already knew and didn't want to hear. I know how to make the ride smoother.
 

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Re: Re: Spoiled gf

desmo079 said:
DAMN IT !!! Will you guys just SHUT UP!!!:D :D :D
Damn, are you REALLY horny or what Desmo?
What if I told you that she was a 115 lb bisexual that gets "wetter" as the bike goes faster and enjoys wearing school girl outfits on the weekends.....hehehe....kidding.
 

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Damn, are you REALLY horny or what Desmo?
What if I told you that she was a 115 lb bisexual that gets "wetter" as the bike goes faster and enjoys wearing school girl outfits on the weekends.....hehehe....kidding.
Answer to question#1. Yes.

Answer to question#2. I'd still say you don't know what you got 'till it's gone.:D
 

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I already know that she is the most wonderful person I have ever met. Now if I could only get her to stop crackin me on the head when we ride.
I'm getting her the MSF course for x-mas. She asked for it. She also mentioned wanting a bike of her own perhaps.
Yeah, I think I'll dump her.;)
 

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I realize that there are things I could do to make it smoother. I can do them, and have in the past. I could simply wait till the bike catches up with the amount of throttle I have given it, and then shift. It's much more fun to roll through the gears with some power shifting and get a little fun out of it. She understands what she can do to help the situation and does it....just very infrequently. I just don't want to put put around like I am on a cruiser.
I understand all of your solutions, but those are the ones I already knew and didn't want to hear. I know how to make the ride smoother.
I hate to break it to you (alright, I love it actually! ;) ) but with that attitude, you probably shouldn't be riding two up. Especially since it sounds like your g/f is newish to riding. Keep it fairly slow and controlled until she can anticipate your moves. THEN you can whack the throttle without worrying about being cracked in the head. If she's a shorty and can't reach around you to support herself on the tank, then just get used to it until she wises up and gets her own bike. ;)

It took my husband and I quite a few rides before I could anticipate his shifts enough to brace for them. Until then, I was cracking him quite a bit. We got to the point in riding together where I could tell when he was going to wheelie, and he didn't even have to warn me. But that was after over a year of two-up riding together.

On the few occasions I have ridden with him since I got my own bike, the only times I've knocked heads with him have been when he's been especially aggressive and generally being stupid. :rolleyes: And since he was being stupid, I didn't feel as bad as I used to for knocking into him. ;)
 

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I already know that she is the most wonderful person I have ever met. Now if I could only get her to stop crackin me on the head when we ride.
I'm getting her the MSF course for x-mas. She asked for it. She also mentioned wanting a bike of her own perhaps.
Yeah, I think I'll dump her.;)
I think you have touched on the best solution of all. Get her her own bike.
 

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Tell your girl to sit a little closer, and wrap her arms around you. Aside from the obvious benefits, this will cause her to put her head to one side or the other of yours.
 

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Grok said:
Breast augmentation.:eek:
Well besides from the obvious solutions, you could always get her an openfaced lid, and then a few good wacks to the face by the backside of your helmet should show here that she may want to pay a little more attention to whats going on around her?;)


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My girl is pretty good about it now, but, I feel your pain. The biggest problem we have is at high speed, if she gets her helmet right behind mine, it aerodynamically destabilizes my helmet, and my head starts whipping around outta control. One time it got really bad, and I damn near lost control of the bike. That was pretty scary. She's gotten way better about, but since I can't see her, I don't know what she's really doing to solve the problem. She says she's putting her helmet on one side of mine, and just leaving it there. I can't imagine thats very comfortable. Anybody else experienced this? And if so, are there any other solutions?
 
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