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Tonight was a lesson learned night (I hope) for a young rider I met.

A buddy of mine and I had just finished watching a movie, and were just loitering out front of the theatre having a smoke (damn long movies), when a couple other friends pulled up.
A new rider in town (small town, so most the local riders had known he just got his bike) pulled up and started into soem ego boosting. Talking about how fast his bike is, how shiney it looked (yes, he actually said that), and other new rider famous quotes. We all just smiled and nodded, thinking to just humor him.

His ride was a new R6, and for some reason he figured that since the rest of us had older bikes (one 88 FZR, 86ish CBR, 84 FZ and a 84 GS), that it was his mission in life to belittle our rides as ancient and useless, and we should get real bikes.

I dont know about the rest of the guys, but that managed to piss me right off. Sure, my bike isnt the fanciest around, but it looks good, runs great, and does everything I need it to do. So I start into my tirade of defending my bike. Just seems to soar over his head as he continues the "classic" bashing.

Realizing its a lost cause, I just give up and we all try to ignore him. Finally he gets the point, and fires his bike up with a "See ya losers" parting remark then peels off down the road. A ways down the street, I guess he figures he had to show off his bike one more time. We hear the whine of his engine and take a look, and usre enough, hes powering up down the street for high speed approach.

Seems like he has seen MI2 a few too many times, and decided that a rolling stoppie was easy to do. As he gets near us, brake goes on, ass end rises... then reality sets in as he understands he doesnt know what the hell he is doing. Lets go of the brake and throws his body wieght backwards, trying to avoid going completely over and sucking ashphalt. Back end slams to the ground, and he looses control. Front end bucks back and forth and then down he goes, flipping over the side of his bike as it slams to the ground.

Once the grinding squeal stops, we run on over to see how he is. Nothing too serious, but he was wearing shirts and shorts.. lots of roadrash from skipping along. Get him on the side of the road, then move his bike out of the way. Left side just destroyed, Fairing ground down and scratched, turn signals powder, shift lever bent around, possibly the bars too. I checked the odometer and it was reading 320 =/ What a waste.

So this self proclaimed hotshot, with his "superior bike", managed to destroy his beauty with less KMs on it then I usually put on on a sunday afternoon ride. To add the insult to injury, he whiped right out front of the theatre where we were... right in front of about 40 other people waiting for the early show to let out. And the crowd was loud and appreciative of the show he put on, hehe.

On one hand, I was sad to see what he did to his bike and himself, but hopefully he takes it to heart and learned that a bike is more then a toy.

Not that he is gonna be able to learn from the lesson anytime soon though. When the cops showed up to see what was going on, they found he only had his learners ticket. I believe the fine for riding alone with only the learners up here is loss of license for 6 months. Hell of a way for him to start the summer, hehe.

Laters,
Dan
 

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Say...was his name Dil?? I heard his brother John Doe did the same thing.........:D:D
Whata shum dit!!! :mad:
Seriously,tho' this guy hopefully learned some key lessions here and if he ever gets back on a bike he'll be a lot smarter than he was when you last saw him!
I am sure incidents like this make John Q. Public really love riders!!:rolleyes:
On the other hand,you did a good deed,Dan,after all the garbage you put up from this guy,in helping him out when he crashed(after he showed you all up!!J/K:D!!)

Ride safe........


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All joking aside

Hearing about new riders pulling stunts like that worries me. Some aren't as lucky as this Joe Schmoe was. Granted, bikes are very exciting and somewhat of a confidence builder (for some), but I really hate to hear when the rider feels that "showing off" is the way to go. Believe it or not, chicks don't dig that. I do appreciate a good stoppie or a long-a** wheelie, but not if that's what you think will impress me. I can't speak for everyone, but riding within your means and KNOWING what that is will impress me. Tricks are nice, but when you're ready.

I grant this kid his latest Darwin award. My guess is it's not his first.
 

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WHOA.. Ok, so I heard of squids trying to show off.. opening a bike, a feeble attemt at a wheelie or what not, but a rolling stoppie!!!.. Ok that really has to take the cake...

I mean anyone who atempts a rolling stoppie without out of the blue is about 80 IQ points short fo being clinically labeled "retarded"..

The good part is that this kid is probably so embaraced that he dumped that he may never get on a bike again.. the bad part is that is he ever does, he probaly won't be as lucky next time..
 

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Sorry to burst ya bubble HR, but the person must actually die to get a Darwin award.
Whats the fun in that, you will never know you won such a prestegious award.. You mean to tell me the black moths of London don't know every biology student in HS sings their praises???:eek:
 

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When the cops showed up to see what was going on, they found he only had his learners ticket. I believe the fine for riding alone with only the learners up here is loss of license for 6 months.
With a learner's permit, you have to ride with someone else on the bike? Did I understand that right? How can you learn how to safely handle a bike with someone else on it? Are any states like that in the US? In KY, you have to have your permit for 6 months, if you're under 21, until you can get your license. And the only permit restrictions are no passengers and you have to wear your helmet...

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Up here, its liek a 3 stage bike license.

For the first learners license, all you have to do is pass the written test you study for from the "book". I use book loosely as its like a 40 page pamphlet, ugg. Passing this test allows you to ride only when with another fully licensed rider riding with you (on another bike). Cant exceed 70 KM/H, cant ride at night, cant have a passenger, and a few other restrictions. You are stuck at this stage for 2 weeks minimum.

For the next stage, you have to take a "ride in the parking lot" test with someone there to grade you. Around the cones, signals, start the bike after stalling on a hill, etc etc. When you pass this test, all the above restrictions apply excpet that you can now ride solo. Again, another two weeks at this level.

Final test is more cone riding, and to me (from what I recall) was a whole lot liek the second test, except I had to ride for a longer distance. When you pass this one, you are now officially road ready and are set for future squidality.

I would actually like to see them put in a learning course as a requirement. Its kinda simple to get your license up here (just a bit time consuming), and seems to promote the stoppie king above.

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IN CA,

Take a writtent est, get a permit

ristrictions are:

No passengers
No Night Riding
No Freeways.

Then take the driving test, cone slolam and a circle.. when you achive that, get a Busa and you can rip it at 175MPH on the freeway, with a passenger at night.
 

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Squidly behavior

Yet again an example of how a motorcycle is a dangerous substitute for self esteem. Guys living in the fantasy that purchaseing a bike transforms them from zero to hero.
"Yeah, like now the honeys will line up to be with me." "That's right, I'm a bad ass." Guys who believe 150 horse power is a shortcut to respect and admiration.

This mentality will continue to lead repressed, immature young men to hospital emergency rooms and cemetaries. Those of us with a broader perspective, a balanced self image, real world experience and common sense should step up to offer insight and guidence. Not to put down but to listen. Not to preach but to lead by example.

It's easy to react with anger and dismiss some punk asshole who's talkin' shit. It's easy because our ego buttons get pushed by that crap. What's hard is to calm our ego's and realize that the posturing and poseing is an appeal for acceptance: for some reassurance that "I am worthy." What is hard is to act as understanding brothers.

We are all worthy.


IMHO.
 

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The learner permit requires a newbie to ride with someone having a motorcycle license on another bike. Two bikes, two people, riding within 50 feet (The number is a guess because I don't remember the exact distance anymore.) of each other at all times. Hope that clarifies things. I had an arguement with a cop over this same thing one time. It was pretty amusing for me because I knew I was right. He kept telling me the learner had to have a passenger. I kept telling him how dangerous and difficult that would be for a new rider, and kept telling him to look it up. I knew what I was talking about. I had just read the DOT motorcycle license book.
 

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Another reason why insurance is so expensive for some sportbikes. 320 miles on an new r6 and he doing stoppies?. Insurance companies make us all pay for thing like this. Glad he's OK. He's fortunate he didn't try a high speed wheelie!
 

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Re: All joking aside

hot_rocket78 said:
Hearing about new riders pulling stunts like that worries me. Some aren't as lucky as this Joe Schmoe was. Granted, bikes are very exciting and somewhat of a confidence builder (for some), but I really hate to hear when the rider feels that "showing off" is the way to go. Believe it or not, chicks don't dig that. I do appreciate a good stoppie or a long-a** wheelie, but not if that's what you think will impress me. I can't speak for everyone, but riding within your means and KNOWING what that is will impress me. Tricks are nice, but when you're ready.

I grant this kid his latest Darwin award. My guess is it's not his first.
Hotrocket, I have to say, you women eat that "showing" off [email protected]# up ;) What do you think a stoppie or long wheelie is..... normal riding? Do you think we do that to "impress" our guy friends? Sorry, had to pick at ya hehe

If he had his learners permit, I am sure the "tag" along person on the back with a regular license doesn't apply. What does the person on the back do, yell "slow down" HEHE......that is to funny..... anyway.....I am sure he got just a regular ticket to court or loss of license. The kid had to be 15 years old. Mommy or daddy probably bought it for him, cuz insurance alone for him would put me in the poor house

I hope the spoiled little brat learned his lesson. I am 33 years old, and work for a living. It just pisses me off when "children" get adult machines and "think" they are adults. I hear my insurance going up already, what a idiot :mad:
 
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