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Today, me and two buddies thought it'd be nice to "hit the road" for a few hours, but little did we know one of us would do exactly that. We live in south Florida and went for a ride out to the indian reservation to escape the heavy city traffic and stretch the throttle cables a bit. The roads out there are almost devoid of any cars, and law enforcement is very light. My only cause for concern was that one of my friends was fairly new to the sport. The fact was, he didn't even own a bike! The third member of our party owned two bikes, an 05 zx10 and an 05 gixxer 1000, and on occasion would let the "new guy" ride his zx10. We had talked often of the danger of a new rider being overwhelmed by the performance of any modern sport bike let alone one that can crack the ton in first gear! He believed that he needed a bike of "at least 1000cc" due to him being 6'8" and 230 lbs. Nothing I could say would change his mind and so eventually I let it go. So, we met at 10:00am and headed out, me on my SV, he on a ZX10, the other on a gixxer 1000. Fast forward a few hours, and there we were getting drinks (no alcohol) and gas before the ride home. The route home had a few nice long curves and some tight turns as well. I was in the lead of our ride when my friend on the zx10 comes by me on the outside just before the first hard right hander. The speed was posted as 30mph, I was going about 60 and he was going maybe 70. If this turn had been on the track I may have taken it around 80 so I had plenty in reserve and he could have made the turn too if he had just stayed calm and looked through the turn. I see him start running wide into the on comming lane then suddenly grab a big handful of brake. The bike stood straight up and off the road he went all the while holding the brakes fo dear life. The front wheel locked as soon as it left the tarmac and busted into a brief tank slapper just before spitting him off the high side. Luckily, only the bike and his ego were hurt. After a few backyard band-aids, the bike was at least rideable. The owner of the bike was not too upset and was much more concerned with the well-being of our friend. Thank God for small favors, cause it could have ended far worse. I hope that people will understand that modern sport bikes of any size are in fact race bike with lights, and should be treated with the same respect as a loaded gun,cause they can kill you just as quickly. Don't think that this is a post against liter bikes, they are great fun and can be very fast, but only if the rider has the skills to wield it. We as riders have to step up and be realistic about our abilities. If we don't police ourselves the government will do it for us, in the form of horsepower restrictions or possibly banning certain models. I am all for free choice and think people should be able to buy any bike they choose. I just wish some would use a little more discretion in making that choice.
 

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Hi All-

Loaning a brand new literbike to someone who doesn't ride his or her own motorcycle regularly seems a bit wacky.

~ Blue Jays ~
 

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twp187 said:
I am all for free choice and think people should be able to buy any bike they choose. I just wish some would use a little more discretion in making that choice.
Agreed! :thumb: Glad to hear your friend is alright and there are were no hard feelings. Lesson learned, I hope.
 

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Wow, thats putting a lot of trust and responsibility in someone. Glad to hear that he is ok. Should be a lesson learned for the owner and the rider.
 

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It's allways a nice ending when the person is OK. I don't know why people NEED literbikes for their size. I am 6 foot 2 and weigh 250lbs. I have an 01 gsxr750 and it's more than enough power for me. I can do crazy lengthy wheelies and can actually beat my friends on their literbikes through the twisties. Is a literbike actually any bigger in size (length, height, etc) than a smaller bike such as a 600 or a 750?
 

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wheelie_steve said:
Is a literbike actually any bigger in size (length, height, etc) than a smaller bike such as a 600 or a 750?
R1:
Length 82.1"
Width 28.3"
Height 43.5"

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R6:
Length 80.3"
Width 27.6"
Height 43.3"

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GSX-R1000
Overall Length: 2030mm (80.0 in.)
Overall Width: 710mm (28.0 in.)
Overall Height: 1130mm (44.5 in.)


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GSX-R600:
Overall Length: 2040mm (80.3 in.)
Overall Width: 715mm (28.1 in.)
Overall Height: 1125mm 44.7 in.)
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Those are dimensions straight off of Yamaha's and Suzuki's websites for the 06 models. Kawasaki and Honda only had seat height.
 

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I hate to take this off topic, But could you by any chance show the place you were riding on http://maps.google.com/ for me? Im looking for some places to ride, or atleast cruise and have a good time or similiar.

Im in west palm also, Boca exactly, thanks.
 

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I didn't know there was that much of a difference in the sizes of the bikes. I thought all of the bike were similar to the suzukis which are about the same height and length.
 

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To me it sounds like he got a bit too confident and would of wrecked on a 600 or anything else.

That being said I totally agree with you about liter bikes. Theres really no reason for them on the street. I know the whole arguement about power everywhere, but if you dont like shifting why even get a sportbike.

If you are an experienced rider and enjoy your 1k, more power too you. To me its a waste though. To even get close to using a 600s capability you are riding way to dangerously for street riding.
 

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Either your friend is mentally handicapped or he has no regard for the well being of his "friend" and doesn't value money highly.

I wouldn't even loan my GS to someone who at least hasn't at least put a couple hundred "easy" miles on a bike.
 

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I agree, the size of the bike really didn't even come into the equation. He could of been on a 250 and had the same outcome.
 

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You guys are right, there really is not much differance in actual size of the bikes, but he thought he needed more power to pull his mass. Also, the post was meant to reflect the sharp track foucus of modern sport bikes, not just liter bikes. The owner of the bikes is an older fellow and has enough money to make the cost of the crash moot. My friend has offerd to pay for the repairs and all his x-rays came back good. The road we were on was just south of Clewiston on the south side of "THE BIG LAKE". I think it's called 832 and turns into 846 just before the reservation.
 

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i gotta say theres more fault with the other riders than the crasher...damn, the dude was in the middle?? no experience, big power...goin at by somebodys`s standards 80 or 90 % of max.... of the experienced rider behind him...somthins wrong with this picture..he`s your friend?? and the high dollar bikes that the owner of the zx 10 has ....whats he got money to weazle? stupid things happen all te time and i think i just detailed one reason why.
 

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Yeah, so the crasher was in the middle, but, the owner who was in the rear was not going nearly as fast. I had enough time to get slowed down, turn around, and park my bike before the owner got to the scene. Don't believe for a second that there was any pressure to "keep up". The ride at your own pace theme was reinforced several times before and during our ride. He also knew that I frequent the track as often as possible and that by his own admission lacked the skills to "hang with me". This was why i was so shocked to see him come by me going into the corner. I really didn't want to get into the "what were you thinking" or "why did you do that" at that time. I will ask him next time i talk to him and find out exactly why he did what he did so as to avoid things like this from occuring in the future. But please don't imply the we somehow pressured him to ride outside his abilities.
 
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