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Just caught this in the Boston Globe - I'm running out of the office and I posted it to the wrong thread, whaddya gonna do? I copied just the worthwhile stuff:

"WASHINGTON (AP) More motorcycle riders are dying in crashes, and federal officials want to know why.

A NHTSA study released Tuesday shows that 2,472 people were killed in motorcycle accidents in 1999, the largest number of fatalities since 1991. It was the second straight year that the number rose over the year before.

The increase mirrors a rise in the number of motorcycles on the road. There were 4.2 million motorcycles registered in 1999, up 9 percent from 3.8 million in 1997.

Motorcyclists are much more likely to die in a crash than the driver of a passenger car. For every 100 million miles traveled, 1.9 automobile drivers died in an accident compared with 36.5 motorcyclists.

The NHTSA study found that 41 percent of motorcyclists in fatal crashes were speeding, that almost half who died in single vehicle crashes were driving under the influence of alcohol, and that almost one in six motorcycle riders were driving without a valid license.

Most of the increases in deaths occurred among motorcyclists at least 40 years old. Deaths among those aged 40 to 49 rose from 405 in 1997 to 567 in 1999, and those over 49 from 294 to 401 during the same two-year period. But the greatest number of fatalities remain among riders between the ages of 20 and 29, growing from 694 in 1997 to 758 in 1999.

At the same time, older motorcyclists had a lower fatality rate than those aged 20 to 39.

Almost 52 percent of fatal accidents occurred on rural roads in 1999, as compared with 47 percent on urban streets. In 1990, 55 percent of fatal motorcycle crashes took place in urban areas, compared with 45 percent in rural areas.

Motorcycles are also getting bigger. In 1990, the average size of a motorcycle in a fatal crash was 769 cubic centimeters. In 1999, the average size was 922 cc.
 

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"More motorcycle riders are dying in crashes, and federal officials want to know why... ...The increase mirrors a rise in the number of motorcycles on the road. " :eek:

OK, am i the only one who didnt put two and two together??? Perhaps we need to eliminate NHTSA alltogether, as they dont seem to be getting it.

"In 1990, the average size of a motorcycle in a fatal crash was 769 cubic centimeters. In 1999, the average size was 922 cc."

Can we say Harley? Can we say Yuppie?

"41% of motorcyclists in fatal crashes were speeding, that almost 1/2 who died in single vehicle crashes were driving under the influence of alcohol, and that almost 1-in-6 motorcycle riders were driving without a valid license."

Ok, lets see here, speeding, alcohol, no license.. i GOT IT!!! Its the MOTORCYCLES that are dangerous!!!! :confused:

take away the speeding drunk squids and what do u got? oh wait, thats assuming that they were ALL on sportbikes... hmmm....

"Most of the increases in deaths occurred among motorcyclists at least 40 years old. Deaths among those aged 40 to 49 rose from 405 in 1997 to 567 in 1999, and those over 49 from 294 to 401 during the same two-year period."

Goldwings and Harleys no doubt?

"But the greatest number of fatalities remain among riders between the ages of 20 and 29, growing from 694 in 1997 to 758 in 1999"

Sportbikes? greatest number, but not the greatest increase. This may be the true message here.

:rolleyes:
 

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"More motorcycle riders are dying in crashes, and federal officials want to know why... ...The increase mirrors a rise in the number of motorcycles on the road. " :eek:

OK, am i the only one who didnt put two and two together??? Perhaps we need to eliminate NHTSA alltogether, as they dont seem to be getting it.

"In 1990, the average size of a motorcycle in a fatal crash was 769 cubic centimeters. In 1999, the average size was 922 cc."

Can we say Harley? Can we say Yuppie?

"41% of motorcyclists in fatal crashes were speeding, that almost 1/2 who died in single vehicle crashes were driving under the influence of alcohol, and that almost 1-in-6 motorcycle riders were driving without a valid license."

Ok, lets see here, speeding, alcohol, no license.. i GOT IT!!! Its the MOTORCYCLES that are dangerous!!!! :confused:

take away the speeding drunk squids and what do u got? oh wait, thats assuming that they were ALL on sportbikes... hmmm....

"Most of the increases in deaths occurred among motorcyclists at least 40 years old. Deaths among those aged 40 to 49 rose from 405 in 1997 to 567 in 1999, and those over 49 from 294 to 401 during the same two-year period."

Goldwings and Harleys no doubt?

"But the greatest number of fatalities remain among riders between the ages of 20 and 29, growing from 694 in 1997 to 758 in 1999"

Sportbikes? greatest number, but not the greatest increase. This may be the true message here.

:rolleyes:
Ditto all of that
 

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hey now

how do most poeple actually die in accidents? Head Trauma? Someone told me, that "at high speeds helmets aren't even worth wearing because they won't help." This is complete bullshit.

But seriously, DO helmets help a lot? Whom here has a helmet personally saved? Just curiouss. I wear all my gear even If I'm just gonig to the Pizza place 5 minutes away, I really really really don't want to die on a bike.

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If you actually read the whole NHTSA ( which the media doesn't do):mad: it says that the fatality numbers are up but for the passed 20 years the ratio of motorcycles on the road and fatalities is down. When you increase the number of anything on the road fatalities are going to go up.
 

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Do you want to know if helmets really work???? How about asking Aaron Yates. Did anyone else see his crash at Laguna Seca. That had to suck!!! They don't make helmets for the looks, there is a purpose. Everything has its limits.
 

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Where can you find all these reposrts? I have always wanted to see some of the statistics.

I also would like to think that if I wear my gear and be as smart as I can be while riding that I greatly reduce my chances of being in an accident.
 

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"At the same time, older motorcyclists had a lower fatality rate than those aged 20 to 39. "

greenninja-- While older riders have had the biggest increase in fatalities, the young' uns are still killing themselves faster. I wouldnt be so quick to blame the yuppy harley riders.

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GreenNinja said:
"More motorcycle riders are dying in crashes, and federal officials want to know why... ...The increase mirrors a rise in the number of motorcycles on the road. " :eek:

OK, am i the only one who didnt put two and two together??? Perhaps we need to eliminate NHTSA alltogether, as they dont seem to be getting it.

"In 1990, the average size of a motorcycle in a fatal crash was 769 cubic centimeters. In 1999, the average size was 922 cc."

Can we say Harley? Can we say Yuppie?

"41% of motorcyclists in fatal crashes were speeding, that almost 1/2 who died in single vehicle crashes were driving under the influence of alcohol, and that almost 1-in-6 motorcycle riders were driving without a valid license."

Ok, lets see here, speeding, alcohol, no license.. i GOT IT!!! Its the MOTORCYCLES that are dangerous!!!! :confused:

take away the speeding drunk squids and what do u got? oh wait, thats assuming that they were ALL on sportbikes... hmmm....

"Most of the increases in deaths occurred among motorcyclists at least 40 years old. Deaths among those aged 40 to 49 rose from 405 in 1997 to 567 in 1999, and those over 49 from 294 to 401 during the same two-year period."

Goldwings and Harleys no doubt?

"But the greatest number of fatalities remain among riders between the ages of 20 and 29, growing from 694 in 1997 to 758 in 1999"

Sportbikes? greatest number, but not the greatest increase. This may be the true message here.

:rolleyes:
I think you hit the nail on the head here. Half were drunk? 1in 6 had no license? I see "older" generation guys buying these bikes. Half have no experience.

Me and my wife was at the department of motor vehicle, and we saw this older man (40 -50) on a beautiful bike and runs of the road. I thought man, here in the smaller counties in TN they only require you to drive a few feet. I thought dude needs alot more experience in riding a bike.

Someone has mention this before. But everytime I see a sportbike rider, they have gear on. You know helmet, gloves, jacket, pants. Everytime I see a Harley rider or goldwing rider, I see women on the back with shorts, bikini tops, those ugly ass "bowl" helmets. The driver is the same, bowl helmet, shorts, not jacket, cut off t-shirt. They look like they just got done swimming! It doesn't take a person with a high IQ to figure why the deaths went up.
 

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Does anyone else think that the increase in inexperienced riders might have something to do with the increase in fatal motorcycle crashes???Or is it just me? I'm not blamming all of the crashes on inexperienced riders,but it pisses me off to see these guys come into my shop and buy an R1 or 929 just because it looks cool, and then the dumb asses try to to pull a wheelie going out of the parking lot. That's just my opinion though.
 

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For the one asking about helmets saving lives;

The helmet I have saved from my first bike accident is a real good visual indicator to those wondering if a helmet will save you. Starting from the bottom left, just behind the jaw, to the top right about a third of the way back, there are huge gouges from the pavement tearing my helmet apart. Its a solid strip about 2 and a half inches wide, tearing down half a centimeter into the helmet. Goes right across the visor which cracked and started to melt to hell (but stayed together thank god).

When I crashed, the first part of my asphalt swim was on my stomach with my head trying to pull the ostritch trick and bury itself in it. Without it on, or with a dorky poser beanie cap, I have zero doubts that it would have sheared my face off and then some. Even if you did live through having all the skin on your head peeled off, woudl you really want to?

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AtomHeartzx6r said:


But seriously, DO helmets help a lot? Whom here has a helmet personally saved?
I fell about 15 years ago and I know if I hadn't been wearing my helmet I'd either be dead or in the Dust Ward at the County Hospital. :eek:
On my most recent get off a little over two years ago, I smacked my head on the street pretty hard. It would have been messy if I didn't have my helmet on or if I didn't have a full face for that matter.:barf: funny how much traction your helmet gets when you're sliding on asphalt:rolleyes:
 
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