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Hi all,
I will be looking at getting some new rubber in the near future and wanted some opinions. I've read a lot of topics on here after searching, but for this time around I would appreciate if only the people who have actually tried various tires on the same bike would comment(for hopefully accurate comparisons)

First off the bike is an 04 ZX6RR. It came with Bridgestone Battlax's: 019 on the front and 012 on the rear. I just hit 12 000 km (~7300 miles) and am down the the wear bar in most places on the rear with the front beginning to cup slightly. Most of my riding is on the highway at close to highway speeds, 100-110 km/h. There are not a lot of twisty roads around save a few sections here and there. Also, rain will not stop me from going out so some miles will be in the wet.

I called one place last week about some new ones and the guy I spoke with recommended Metzeler (not sure which model) based on the wet traction, price and durability. He said I could expect about the same mileage out of them as my current tires, or more. I have heard from a few people however that Metzeler's are grippy, but not very durable, and therefore not sure if I should take this advice?

So, any recommendations as far as switching? I have nothing else to compare to so maybe the stock tires are pretty good and I should buy the same models again? Fire away!
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I'm finishing up a Metzler M1 on my rear. It is very grippy and gets decent milage. I've got about 5k miles (about 8000 kilometers) out of it as my rear I still have anouther easy 1000 miles that I can go on them though. I do a good bit of hard riding, and I exceed highway speeds every now and then as well. I've also ridden in over an inch of standing water with the M1 and had no problems. I have a Dunlop 208 on the front and don't like it to much though, it just doesn't like to warm up and tends to slip. I would look into the M1 tires ore even the M3's which are suppose to be even better. I'm planning on getting a set of M3's as my next pair, but I have yet to try then. I have only heard good things about them though.

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Hi jeffmorton-

My absolute favorite preference has been Metzeler tires for years. Supple on the road, very respectable wear characteristics, and the hands-down winner in rainy conditions due to their perfectly-formulated silica content.

One of the reasons that I believe they produce such a great motorcycle tire is because that is all that they do. No engineering of car, truck, ATV, or bicycle tires as supplemental lines of business. All their research and development is targeted specifically towards the motorcycle market.

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Blue Jays,
I've seen in other posts as well that you have a preference for Metzeler. Maybe I missed it but did you ever mention a model? I was reading about the M1 and M3's, but maybe the Z6 would be more suitable for my riding? What do you run and does your riding style sound similar to what I described?
 

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I do about the same type of riding as you. I switched over from Bridgestone 010's to Metz Z6's and man I love them. The grip is good for my type of riding and they wear reasonablly. I get maybe 6000 miles on them. When I do hit up the twisties I can run them as hard if not harder than the bridgestones.
 

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Hi jeffmorton-

My motorcycle definitely gets a fair share of straight highway miles either to get to the twisties or to visit friends across state lines. My most-recent Metzeler tires were the wonderful ME Z4 which were excellent. Predictable, durable, communicative, and confidence-inspiring in wet conditions. Out of the last five sets of tires, three of them have been Metzelers.

I was forced to switch to Dunlops when I picked-up some large screws in my tires hundreds of miles from home and had failure. Had a local shop install the only D208s they had in stock. They're OK at best...but can't hold a candle to the Metzelers. They almost seem hard and loud compared to the supple Metzeler rubber.

Once these Dunlops have been worn enough, I will swap back over to the Metzeler Sportec M-1 tires front and rear. I'm willing to sacrifice dry performance for a bit of "insurance" in case I get caught in the rain. These probably won't get the same mileage as the ME Z4 model, but will probably get significantly more than the Rennsport, ME Z3 Racing, or the Sportec M3.

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Blue Jays said:
One of the reasons that I believe they produce such a great motorcycle tire is because that is all that they do. No engineering of car, truck, ATV, or bicycle tires as supplemental lines of business. All their research and development is targeted specifically towards the motorcycle market.

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Bluey, I hate to do this to you, but you're probably the type to want the real information regardless. Metzeler is owned by Pirelli. Metzeler and Pirelli tires are made in the same plant in Breuberg, Germany. They are of the same construction, which includes the circumferential steel belts, and the same tread compounds among similar tires. I've had the opportunity to spend a few hours inside that plant while I was working for Pirelli. I was in the automotive group, and there is an auto tire plant about a mile up the road from the moto plant. It shouldn't steer you away from Metzelers; in fact, it opens you up to also consider Pirelli's. :)
 

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I cast my vote for Pirelli. The Diablo is a good all around tire that wears well and has great wet and dry traction.

I'm running a set of Pirelli Dragon Super Corsas at the moment with no complaints.
 

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Hi mkeeney-

Shocking! I tell you, simply SHOCKING! :)

Well I guess we learn something new everyday. Here I was digging the German engineering and the singularity-of-focus strictly on motorcycle tires. The only thing I could find on the Pirelli site was this quick Pirelli & Metzeler description.

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I have the Dunlop Qualifiers on my bike which just came out this year. They feel a lot better then the 208. You can feel that they are a lot softer as well. I had a friend talk to the rep. and he said you should get 6000 miles out of them as an average. So far I have no problems with them.
 

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Blue Jays said:
Hi mkeeney-

Shocking! I tell you, simply SHOCKING! :)

Well I guess we learn something new everyday. Here I was digging the German engineering and the singularity-of-focus strictly on motorcycle tires. The only thing I could find on the Pirelli site was this quick Pirelli & Metzeler description.

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It's definitely a good example of brand separation. I didn't see anything on the Pirelli web site that would indicate a connection to Metzeler, nor vice-versa. I would guess that most motorcycle enthusiasts don't know the two are the same. I didn't know until I worked for them. Your "German engineered" tires were most likely designed in Milan, and you might be surprised how many connections there are in the automotive tire industry. There are many tire brands, but few tire companies now.
 

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Well Blue Jays, I guess I'm a new convert or the test subject now. Up in the big city with the bike due for some new Sportec M3's in the a.m.
Maybe they are still available in the states or the guy here is feeding me a line, but he said the M1's are no longer available, the M3's have replaced them. Thought I'd pass that along anyways.
Even get to test the rain capability of them right off as they are calling for severe thunderstorms tomorrow. Rode through about an hour of what seemed like a monsoon today coming here(pouring rain, hail, howling winds) so I figure bring it on now!:D
Of course my newly purchased rain suit will help that cause too:p
 

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All this talk of the M1s I think I'll go burn of that ol bridgestone on my way home and get the Mets pt on tomorrow
Haha i had the same idea. Right before i get new tires(which i need soon and i think i'll try the M1 or M3's too) i'm going to film one badass burnout video haha.

There are no real side affects to the mechanics when doing burnout's on bikes are there?
 
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