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I have a 748 and although the handling and style are great, the motor is a bit weak. What can i do besides adding an exhaust and gettin a k&n filter? Please help, must go faster!
 

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I don't mean to bash at all but the 748 is a small bike and unless you want to bump compression up and do all sorts of things to sacrifice reliability, the only suggestion i have for you is to buy something with more power. Might i suggest you buy an R6 or a GSX-R 600? Lots of power and still great handling. The only problem is that it is not a Duck! Otherwise, more cc's is always the rule for more power.
 

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Hi Nickelli, Read your comments on your duck. Perhaps you could get your hands on the SPS model, one of which my bro owns, and he has it chipped together with termis and the k and n filter kit. He says his makes 106 hp at the rere wheel, thats up about 15 on the standard bike. It comes with special floating disc brakes that even the 748r does not have. It also has extra light wheels and superior suspension parts. I do not know if you can get this model easily in the states, my brother lives in Ireland. Best of luck. Daithi:
 

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don't get discouraged by duc haters.you can get a pretty good hp gain with a full system,chip,and or a power commander.as well as the air filter that fast by ferracci recommends(i forget what it's called though).that whole 600 crap is bull....!you have a small hp disadvantage but torque out the wazoo.
 

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I ordered a set of microns yesterday (may not be here for up to 3 months)and if you have it could you give me the ferracci website. How much hp does the power commander add and with this the filter and the ehaust, will i be able to tell a big difference?
 

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You got a Duke my friend...

I agree with iccarref1026
your advantage is in the power deliverly. Aren't twins easier to ride fast? If you want to go faster ride like Troy Bayliss's team mate :D or get NOS :D That'll suprise a few 600's.

Honestly Get NOS its not that expensive.
 

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Well although I hate the saying, there is no replacement for displacement. Making serious horsepower from a small motor requires serious cash. How much power are you looking to make? What about the bike makes you feel like it's under-powered? Are you trying to wheelie it in 3rd gear without effort? Tell me what aspect of the bike's performance you aren't happy with and I'll do my best to tell you how to get what you want.
 

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The 748 is a very capable bike compared to the 600cc bikes. With the new exhaust and a remap the bike can put out comparable hp and, as mentioned, better torque.

They don't handle quite as well right out of the box but can be made to with very little effort. If you already have the money to buy one then upgrading shouldn't be a mojor issue.

The last couple of years the 600cc bikes have surpassed the 748 so its days are somewhat numbered if Ducati doesn't get to work on it. Hopefully they will. I'm not a big fan of the 916 series but I do like the 748.
 

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I guess what i really want is enough hp to be able to compete with the regular 750s, i ride with all 600s and i feel like performance wise we're all neck to neck. I know that i have alot more torque and that is what the twins are known for but i spent so much money already that i really want something to show for it. i just got rid of a 98 gixxer 600 and this is the biggest bike i've bought yet, i guess i was just expecting a little more ooooomph in 4th-6th. Should've bought the RC51!
 

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Nickelii said:
I guess what i really want is enough hp to be able to compete with the regular 750s, i ride with all 600s and i feel like performance wise we're all neck to neck. I know that i have alot more torque and that is what the twins are known for but i spent so much money already that i really want something to show for it. i just got rid of a 98 gixxer 600 and this is the biggest bike i've bought yet, i guess i was just expecting a little more ooooomph in 4th-6th. Should've bought the RC51!
Well yeah, what you want is more torque and that is the hard thing to get out of a small motor. Small meaning bike motors in general. You can have the head ported and polished, higher compression ratio which can be done by a number of means, cams etc. but when you add up all that cash, yeah, you'd be better off with a bigger bike.

If I were you I'd just through a bigger sprocket on the rear. This will give you more torque in every gear and the only draw back is that you'll find 1st and 2nd gear will be very short. It's the most practical way to accomplish what you want.
 

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yo chris R1,it is obvious to me that you don't have the slightest idea what a twin is all about.also ducati has upped the hp on 748's cosiderably for 2003.(nickelii),there is nothing wrong with your 748's power.some of it might be you are not used to the way a twin sounds making power.it's a totally different creature than an in-line four.call ferracci up so they can give you an accurate figure on a hp gain.(215)657-1276.ask for service.
 

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iccarref1026 said:
yo chris R1,it is obvious to me that you don't have the slightest idea what a twin is all about.also ducati has upped the hp on 748's cosiderably for 2003.(nickelii),there is nothing wrong with your 748's power.some of it might be you are not used to the way a twin sounds making power.it's a totally different creature than an in-line four.call ferracci up so they can give you an accurate figure on a hp gain.(215)657-1276.ask for service.
I'll give you that I don't have strong twin expirience and that my strength in knowledge is inline motors. However, an engine is simply an air pump no matter how many cylinders or what configuration you have. Tuners do the same thing to make power from either type of motors. Raise compression, change the stroke, balance, blue print, flow out the head, change the duration whatever...

My opinion remains the same - If you want to make the kind of horsepower that he's looking for out of a small motor you are going to have to throw a good chunk of change at the bike, especially if you go the Fast by Feracci route. This I know as I live in PA as well. IMHO - dumping that kind of money into a bike isn't worth it unless you are going to keep it forever because you will never get it back.

By the way, the [shift] key can be found on the left and right side of your keyboard :twofinger
 

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I guess what i really want is enough hp to be able to compete with the regular 750s, i ride with all 600s and i feel like performance wise we're all neck to neck. I know that i have alot more torque and that is what the twins are known for but i spent so much money already that i really want something to show for it. i just got rid of a 98 gixxer 600 and this is the biggest bike i've bought yet, i guess i was just expecting a little more ooooomph in 4th-6th. Should've bought the RC51!
The 748 is never going to compete with inline 4 cylinder 750cc bikes. It isn't meant to... that is the 998's job. If you bought a 748cc twin to compete with GSXR750s then you bought the wrong bike. :(

You could put about $30K into the bike with an overbore kit from Ferracci that would compete for about 500 miles between rebuilds.

I have ridden a nicely tuned 748 with an 825cc overbore and it won't touch my stock(w/ slip-ons and PC II) RC-51 in the power department. Handles nicley with the upgraded suspension. The 825cc engine puts out about 113 hp and isn't the easiest bike to maintain. It is for sale BTW at a very good price. ;)
 

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you are right on rc john.the rest of you guys are just to smart for me.you're geniuses.i have know idea what i'm talking about.:rolleyes:
Well if you put it that way I guess you don't KNOW what your talking about.:twofinger
 

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What about NOS

$2000.00 for NOS (Probably less), depends what kind of bang for bucks you want. Thats cheap hp wouldnt you agree? or is NOS just not an option for may of you Hwy riders? I think Nos works fine on a hwy - imo
 

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$2000.00 for NOS (Probably less), depends what kind of bang for bucks you want. Thats cheap hp wouldnt you agree? or is NOS just not an option for may of you Hwy riders? I think Nos works fine on a hwy - imo
It's just not to good in the curves though. ;)
 
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