And just how DO you adapt to competing with wages a FRACTION of what it takes to live here WITHOUT becoming what's there? That's the fallicy in the whole discussion. Tell me again WHAT in the world is a worker here to do to out innovate and out perform slave to twenty cent an hour labor OR, the one still working its way up the chain, $7 to $10 dollar an hour degreed engineers? And the next SOB who suggests to you that you SHOULD compete with that, slap his silly ass silly!Vash said:ahh the good ol globalization debate. The idea is to find a way to adapt to change, not prevent change from happening. No one seemed to have figured out a way to adapt to it, but few are thinking in that direction.
No problem with change and no problem figuring out how to do it. Trade is NOT new, change is NOT new, and greed is NOT new. What IS new is the amount of power that has been yielded to the greedy in the historically bankrupt policies of trickle down that have been largely absent since FDR but re-surfaced since Reagan. A few paragraphs in the trade policies is all it will take for the MAJORITY to be protected from abuse. And the minority will still make PLENTY... if they're REALLY worth their salt. Might be some new names in that list but there'll still be plenty of BIG winners.
The problem is when the greedy are totally willing to USE it to their TREMENDOUS benefit and at the EXPENSE of over half of our citizens, getting away with human abuses that are NOT tolerated here, and have duped the public with non-issue after non-issue to convince a sufficient number of those citizens to blow holes in their own feet, through their own ignorance, supporting their own demise, couching the right to take advantage of people in a bogus cry of freedom.
My guess is between 30 and 40% of the supporters of those low-life perpe-traitors are on the short end of the ultimate stick and don't even know it. 50% of the citizens DO know it and never supported the twits. Probably all socialists or commies.
BTW, income statistics from the seventies until now confirm the trend. It's a steady downhill hit for the middle and lower classes. It hasn't yet reached all who WILL be affected. NOW would be a good time to start fixing it. I'm yet to see a THING in history or present policy to convince me ANY different. I'm open to that evidence but doubt it exists. I've been looking, watching, reading, and listening a looong time and everything I've learned is quite to the contrary. That's how I've come to the conclusions I have.:thumb: