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I can't believe I'm the first to bring this up- Motorcyclist just did a shootout between the R1, 929, and ZX9, and picked the 929 #1 overall. Most interesting is their statement that the 929 makes the R1 feel heavy and slow!
Now I'm gonna kick back and watch the ensuing debate between Chris and every Honda owner here!

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You didn't mention the "little" GSXR was included in the test. :) Funny, it posted faster top speed, quicker 1/4 mile times (except for the ZX9R) and better lap times than any of the other bikes. Yeah, it's a racebike with lights, we all know. But, it's just a 750,too. :)

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I was going to point this out to Chris but it sounds like he's having a bad day, I didn't have the hart.
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Tristan, is that in the July issue? I have yet to receive mine. Did they say anything about hard parts dragging on the 929? A while back, there was that story of racers dragging the case (which side I don't know), causing the front tire to lose grip, and Wham-O. I have seen several photos of the 929 in what seems to be full lean, and I can't see how that was happening. Anyone got any updates on this?

Looking forward to Chris "I love my R1" Hooligan Sr.'s reply... :D

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Pete- yeah, I think it's July. I thought the bad case design belonged to the RC51. I'm not sure, but I don't recall the shootout mentioning it on the 929.

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Tristan, I've been searching the SBW archives to find the reference to the problem. If I ever find it, I'll post it here. I was pretty sure it was the 929; "was" being the operative word.

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So did American Road Racing Magazine rate
the 929 as #1... So I threw both those
mags away.. Just kidding... Hehe

Hey, all you 929 guys... Wooo Hooo for you!
Wahhhh for me.

You know there all sick of the R1 anyway...



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Speedvision had a comparo last night. A
friend here at work was telling me about it.
It was the R1, 929, ZX9 and I guess the GSXR.
He said 4 bikes but wasn't sure of the last
one. Anyway again, 929 ontop with R1 right
behind. They said the same thing everyone
else is saying. The Honda's a better all
around bike but experts will be faster on the
R1 b/c of it's power...

Hummmm.....

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Yeah Chris, I think that's the way it will go with all the Y2K shootouts. The racers will rate the R1 tops, while the others will rate the 929 high based on it's more street-friendly ergos and power delivery. No one can dispute that all four are really great bikes.

BTW, does anyone have a video of that comparo? I don't have Speedvision, though that's in the works, and would be willing to pay the cost of shipping and a blank tape for it.

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Yeah... The R1 might be faster on lap times
if the wheel does fly apart and kill you.
I'm really salty about this one. It's a
very very serious problem and I hope to
God that the 2000 model has this addressed.

Peace!
Chris


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I mentioned it on the R1 Warning topic, but once again, guys, don't sweat the wheel thing. Yes, it's a serious and tragic thing that happened to that guy, but I really think it was a freak accident, not an inherent design flaw.

Anyway, about the 929 test: I agree with the explanation of the magazine, that the 929 gets the all-around vote as best open bike, because they take all factors into account. Not just sheer racetrack performance. Not just top speed. Not just comfort. Everything combined. So basically what they're saying is that any Schmoe can hop on a 929 and feel like a hero, whereas it takes a rider of considerable skill and social grace, as well as superior intelligence and breeding, to bring out the best in the R1. ;) Hee, hee! :D :D :D

Come on, Honda guys! I'm kidding! I'm a kidder! :) :) :)

By the way, I've heard the same thing about the 929's ground clearance problem. It's the same thing that always affected the 900RR: The left side engine cover drags during extreme lean angles. (The RC51 is a V-twin -- you couldn't drag the engine case on it unless you were crashing!)

If you've seen the Honda commercial where Kurtis Roberts is riding around a track on a 929 with an Erion paint job, you can actually see a scrape mark on the engine cover in the slow-motion shot toward the end of the commercial.

I doubt that it would be a problem for anyone on the street, but if you were going to race a 929, it could be a concern...

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I must say I find it surprising how quiet
that has all been but I know 2 or 3 racers
at Donington Park wiped out on 929s b/c of
that problem about a month ago... It was
a great concern for Honda for the upcoming
Isle of Man b/c they are NOT allowed to
modify the bike!! Uh -oh



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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rr31:
The R1 is the best production motorcycle ever made - everyone knows that!

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Aww, man, not ANOTHER one! :D



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Get real put Super Nickey on any bike made and he will whoop the shit out of any bike.Unless the other bike belongs to Old STUD Malladin :D


The test was a misprint the ZX-9r was the best of the bunch :D

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Nah, no words to be eaten, unless I turn into some R1-loving fanatic that:
(1) can't keep his mouth shut about how his bike is better than all others, and...

(2)because he rides an R1, he thinks he is a better rider than anyone else on the street, and...

(3)thinks if you don't have an R1, or at least admit that the R1 is tops, you're an idiot.

Sound familiar?

JUST KIDDING!!!!

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Ouch!!!!!!!

You must elated that most people are chosing
the 929! But you know, there's always gonna
be a top dog. The owners of that machine are
always going to play it up to. I dealt with
it for 9 years until I finally had a bike
that was on top of the list; And that only
lasted about 4 months. We're all in the same
boat if you ask me.

It's been said a million times before but
bottom line is "Do you LOVE your bike?". If
the answer is yes than forget everything/one
else...

Peace,
Chris

P.S. I wanted a VFR for the longest time and
you got one your first year! Bastard! :D


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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rr31:
The R1 is the best production motorcycle ever made - everyone knows that!

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Ahhhhhhh I feel better now...


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