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As some may already know I have a 95 Katana 750 (that is not running so well under braking) that I plan to sell it soon. I'm a daily rider, meaning rain or shine I'm out there and do a lot of commute riding (lane spliting and the like, so no gold wings in my future).

I have a car, but that is reserved for racing only these days. My wife's car is the grocery getter. But, what I'd like is a low maintenance reliable bike with good power. I like sport bikes, but I need something with a more long term comfortable riding position. The bikes on the top of my list are;

Hyabusa
V-Max
CBR1100XX

I really like the idea of the V-Max with the shaft drive, but I also like the CBR1100XX for the fuel injection. I know most of you are probably carb lovers, but I think FI ultimately will win out (low maintenance and so easy to fix). None of the above bikes seem to have both. The BMW K series is out -- just too expensive (they do have both FI & shaft).

Looking for anyone's impressions and thoughts on this topic. If you have taken any of the three listed bikes for a spin, I'd really enjoy your feedback.



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I looked at your list, and there is one bike that is not there that I think you shuld consider. That would be the ZX-12. A buddy of mine has one, and it is kick-ass, firebreathing, mutha****a! Of course, when the road starts to turn, he becomes a speck in my mirror, but in a straight line- holy crap!!

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Hi Rob,
If your looking for smooth power delivery, the XX does this very well. the 00 has some improvments over the 97 - 99 model like full stainless system, larger fuel tank & FI.
I'm sure the Vmax is similar, but the only thing I would say, is with out fairing longer trips would be harder on the body.
Depending on what sort of riding you want to do.

You also mention, that you ride everyday (so do I) the fairing offer's good protection from wind and rain.

The XX is very easy to take to redline without realising and some people I know fit aftermarket exhaust's, to just let them "feel" the speed they are travelling at.

The Hyabusa, (have not has a ride on one) but from what I understand, it is not as smooth but has more power. It has a lower seat height - so tall or short? also build quality? - heard somthing about subframes colapsing?

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ZX12 was on my list, but I can never seem to get comfortable on a Kawasaki. I'm short 5'8" and stocky (195 lbs). Also, the Kawasaki's I've tried seem to generate more vibrations at freeway cruise speeds.

How are the vibs on the CBR1100XX? What is the width of the XX? With CA traffic I'm a big lane splitter.

That fairing is nice to have, really does help out my neck and shoulders (but also makes it more difficult to work on the bike). I want a bike that I'll have no problem going from San Francisco to L.A. Needs to have power (i.e. 10 sec bike) and yet be very reliable (avoid high maintenance and frequent tune ups). Tried this trip on my old Suzuki 1400 Intruder and took me about 2 days to finally get the vibs out of me.

Thanks for the input, trying to gather as much feedback as I can right now.



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The vibes,
no prob's with the XX, with the motor having a balancer shaft it gives very little vibration, this even means Honda have done away with rubber engine mounts. giving a more rigid chassis.

I split lanes everyday, it not as agile as a shorter bike (R1) but I have no worries, our roads are a bit tighter than those found in the states I think?

The seat, it's comfy, I normally need to get off every 1&1/2 hours to let my legs get some circulation, if I'm on a long trip.
I'm a bit of a blouse when it comes to pain and I'm not normally in a hurry (also need a smoke by that time as well).

I would suggest going to a few dealers and sitting on their machines, and select the one that fits you best. being comfortable is (I think) quite important.

Service,
being a Honda sort of speaks for it's self. the only real problem I've had is a fried regulator (& fried battery due to this). The bike's done about 40,000 kms. changed the oil & filter a few times, tyres and a new chain.


Ross :)


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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Aril, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by V8VENOM:
what I'd like is a low maintenance reliable bike with good power <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Judging by your criteria, there is no question which bike to get. The Blackbird is the way to go. :)

RIDE RED! :D

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Let me suggest a few other you should consider, especially as you say you commute everyday and want a sportbike. The Honda VFR800 should be on your list, as should the Kawasaki ZRX1200 (coming out this year and certified in California). Both are very comfortable, a consideration in daily riding, fast enough to lose you license and very reliable. Plus the Kawasaki is a relative bargain at about $7,300 or so.



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I certainly have to give the Kawasaki another rider fit & feel test. I'm not looking for a sportbike -- I think the class is sport touring?

Is the ZRX1200 fuel injected? Are you sure about the $7,300? I thought they were more in the $11,000 range?

I've tried the VFR750, but not an 800. It is a nice bike but the rider position made me feel I was being pole volted over the top -- but again, I'm short guy so it is hard to find a good compromise.

Rob.

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You should sit on the VFR800 to see the changes. There is always aftermarket clipons and footpegs to change the ride height and stance. It is a great bike for long distance or daily comfort, and reliability.

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You should get an SV650. I bought one in June, and it is the fifth bike I've owned.

I've owned a '79 KZ650, '93 Honda Shadow 600, '92 GSX-1100g, and a '93 GSXR-1100.

the SV650 is by far the most fun I've ever had on a bike. I'm so much more confident on this bike than any other, that I've left a few friends on liter bikes in the dust.

It's also cheap enough that you could seriously trick it out, and have left over money to play with, as opposed to chipping our 10k+ for a 'Busa or 12r, or whatever.


If you're comfortable with your ego enough to ride a 600cc bike, the SV will not let you down.

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I had never ridden a VFR800 until a few days ago. With stock clip-ons, the riding position was, IMO, quite more upright than my VFR750.

Of your list, I'll cast my vote for the XX.

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I think you guys forgot about Harley Davidson ! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

No seriously, If I were you I would hold off a liitle while and wait for the new YAMAHA FAZER, Or FZ1 or whatever it's called... I dunno if you saw it yet but....
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/01motorsports/01mcy/sportbody.html

This is a Banditto beater! and a ZRX beater...

No FI though..

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Forget the VMax. I rode a friend's a few years ago and disliked it immensely. It would be a great drag bike, but as soon as you see a corner you realize what pig you're riding. I haven't ridden a Hyabusa, but I've sat on one at the dealership and couldn't imagine going long distances with it. I've read two good reviews on the '01 1200 Bandit, but Lord what an ugly fairing.
I'd say, give the XX or the ZX-12 a try.

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For reliabe and comfortable, you might want to consider the Kawasaki ZR-7 also. The 2001 model will be available with a 1/2 fairing, which looks like a good compromise between sportbike and comfortable daily commuter. I have a 2000, which I've fitted with a Rifle 1/4 fairing, and I love it. Comfortable and very near sportbike-level handling. Also good torque. Best of all is the $5699 MSRP!

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Thanks everyone for the comments/opinions. I like the larger motors, I'm gonna see if I can get some time on an XX, ZX12, and a VFR800.

Which bike would be best for a ride from San Francisco to LA (and back)? Anyone know what rpm any of these bike run at when doing about 80-85 mph in top gear?



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The current ZRX1100 is about $7,395, I think and you may be able to get a better deal now that the season is ending. I don't think the new ZRX1200 will be much more than that. I was considering it myself, but fell in love with the looks of the ZR750F2, the ZR-7. I know you said you want a bigger motor; your choice. Me, I'll second Jarel's opinion. The ZR-7 is a comfortable superbike in the classic sense. And a blast to ride! :)



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I'm gona second, ( or third ?) the VFR 800 idea,i know three coworkers with them, and they love them !

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Gotta tell ya brother, I absolutely LOVE my '99 XX. Loads of power, very comfy by comparason to some of the more cramped bikes[only if your around 6'2"], FI is spot on, and handles very well for a liter plus I4. Lots of aftermarkets for it. 2" clip on rizers, higher faring [from Givi], hard bags[corbin beetle bags], and a turbo kit iffin ya REALLY want to impress the boys in blue!

Happy hunting!

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Hi Rob,
The XX sits at about 4000 rpm at 120 kmph, (80 ish miles an hour)

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Rob,
I would heartily recommend the Hayabusa. It is a do everything bike. It has a shorter seat height which I think you would love. It has very nice gauges with clock, fuel, two tripmeters and two mpg meters. It has a way better range on a tank of gas than the XX. It runs about half as hot as the XX. It looks better than the XX ;) And it handles incredibly and cruises very very nicely at 80-100 or 150 or whatever you'd like. I have to throw in a few bits about the VFR800. I always hear this recommended and I have no idea why. I came from a cruiser and I found the Busa just as comfy as the VFR. If that is all the VFR has going for it, forget it. It is way overpriced for a FI 800. Period. Yes some may say is has a nice V4 sound. So what. It is very reliable, true. But I almost always see people selling them within a year. If the VFR were a 1000 and came down about $1000 in price, I would say it might be worth it. You can't go wrong with either the XX or the Busa in my opinion. (probably the 12R too). Just my 2 cents.
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