I don't know who on the forum has or is serving in the military. When we train(Army) sometimes we are forced to fight in a urban environment and fighting in a city can get very ugly. Here is a example one time we went into a city with about 6 bulidings with a Cavalry Squadron(about 1000 soldiers) and were defeated before one soldier could enter the city by 20 soldiers with machine guns and some Anti-tank weapons. Iraq is a country of 15 million and the only way to defeat a city is to destroy large amounts of it if not all of it. We are trying to peace keep for the same people we are fighting so we will never level one of their cities. These thugs in the cities are digging in right now and prepearing for a fight. Hopefully we can talk them into giving up. If not hundreds if not thousands of soldiers will be killed trying to take the countries cities. Also the marines a very good fighting force are not trained to peace keep being nice is not their thing and the attitude of the marines will destroy relations with the locals. Not that I have a problem with the Marines I think they are awesome at what they do and are a very proud branch of service but peacekeeping is just not intheir blood neither is occupying a country. This war could be lost it has happened before and it could happen again. A Muslim country will never be so-called pacified or helped out successfully by a Christian country it would show weakness and all muslim countries will make sure that we are not a success in one of their countries. It might not happen but if you are a gambler don't bet against it.