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I wanted this to be in the big thread, but it got closed on me before I could get there.

I just got my VTX last week. Here are some answers to questions I know are coming:

Why VTX? I wanted the power, specifically the torque, because I like streetlight races, but I no longer have the time to hop-up something myself.

Why not a sportbike? A true sportbike (of which I have ridden plenty), while better in something twisty, seldom has this much 0-30. Plus, they just don't look as cool. Plus, it's hard for my wife to ride a SB with me (when I'm not being an on the lights)

Why not Harley? too many posers, too slow, too expensive. I ride bikes to be an original. Too many Harley people are just lemmings following the crowd. Do I wish I had one? No, although I do like the rumble. I used to have a Fboy and its was pretty cool. I will fix the sound, though, when HardKrome or someone comes out with pipes that don't mess with the fuel injection.

What's it really like? Fast. Bizzarley smooth at high speeds (100-110 mph). It's like a Mercedes, in some ways -- you get going too fast before you notice.

the torque takes some getting used to. On some sharp turns, I've over-accelerated twice now getting going. Scared the shit out of me for a milisecond before I figured out what the hell I was doing.

The back wheel will light up (chirp) going into second or even third under heavy acceleration.

The Brakes took a little while to get going. I think there was some invisible crap on the disc from the factory.

Handles very well for a big bike. It feels, in all but the time when I went to the gym, squatted, and went on the bike with legs thrashed out, like a 500. The seat height gives great confort and confidence. It's not at all unweildy like a Valk.

Cross winds are ignored by it.

Nits: the rev limiter kicks in too soon. Someone needs to come out with a smaller radiator, or a way to hide it. Otherwise, it's beautiful.

Chicks dig it. I've had the good trashy kind nearly hurt themselves coming to look at it. Always nice. This never happened with my Ducati. I think the vibrations from V-twins make their implants feel better.

I already took some of it apart, just because that's what I do. I looked at most parts. The bulk are Jap or unmarked, but an easy third of what I could get to(cables, battery, seat, just for instance) say Made In America.
 

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CrazyDave said:
...I ride bikes to be an original. Too many Harley people are just lemmings following the crowd...
Isn't it weird that just a few years ago that is exactly what Harley riders said about Japanese bikes?
 

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The VTX is okay if you like dreadnoughts,:p I think it looks kind of neat. But I'd get bored with it pretty fast.
 

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Regarding my lemming comment and the irony of it: What is truly ironic is that I used to ride a Harley back then and left harley because of the RUBS, er, I mean lemmings, that have taken over the brand.

Plus, the Harley dealer in my kneck of the desert is a prick. I went in to find summer chaps and couldn't even find a person to talk to; they were in the back drinking expresso, I kid you not. What a crock.

Sorry this cruiser talk crept into sportbikeworld. The VTX is a "sportbike" in the way an old muscle car compares to a Ferrari: probably faster in the straighawayish areas, but killed in the corners.
 

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...The VTX is a "sportbike" in the way an old muscle car compares to a Ferrari: probably faster in the straighawayish areas, but killed in the corners...
CrazyDave,

You're joking, right? A VTX couldn't smoke a Ninja500 on the straights.

Killed in the corners? DEAD in the corners.
 

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No, I wasn't joking, just not clear. I was talking real-world speeds people get to from a stop light, not on-the-highway-going-top-speed --- put differently, acceleration, the same thing muscle cars do so well.

Top end, before I personly got the shakes on the thing (but not the top end of the bike) was 135 by the speedo, whatever that translates to real world; don't know, probably 130.

On a related topic, I can tell that the engine is held back A LOT by the rev limiter. I would not be surprised to see a chip and maybe some agressive pipes (coupled with re-placement of the pegs/seat to a more aggressive stance) that could create some customs out of this monster akin to the old Cobras.
 

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hehe, I always wondered if cruiser guys thought their extra weight made it so they could accelerate as fast as us ;) Give me any sportbike that has at least 500cc and I'll stomp any cruiser into the ground in a straight line (no offense :) ) Big cc cruisers are quick when compared to most cars, but they are no sportbike.
 

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I doubt if there are many cruiser owners who care whether or not their bike will outaccelerate a sport bike. I would imagine most cruisers are bought to cruise on, not to race with. Since you brought it up, there are a couple of things I can mention. The V-Max could be considered a cruiser, or at least a cruiser/standard. You'd be hard pressed to find a 500cc bike that would accelerate with a Max.

Top gear roll-ons are another measurement of acceleration. The Honda VTX is bested only by two sport bikes in roll-ons, the Hayabusa and the ZX-12. There aren't many sport bikes that can touch a V-Max in this catagory either.

Now if you're referring to 0-60 or 1/4 mile times, you're right, cruisers don't compare to sport bikes, again, unless the V-Max is considered.

I am currently considering the purchase of a new VTX. Do I care that any 600cc sport bike will outaccelerate it? No. Though I haven't ridden one yet, I like it because it looks comfortable, it's very nice looking, and it makes mondo torque. Sounds like my kind of bike!
 
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Sorry, The link didn't work ? Is the sever down ? Sometimes these sites have live chat , I wonder if Tiger Woods will be on ??? He's the best !!
 

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Grampi, I've gotta stop being Rob for a sec, and be Frank with you. You have problems.

CrazyDave brought it up, a cruiser guy. False statements must be shot down, especially on a sportbike forum talking about cruisers being faster, can't have that.

He said stoplight to stoplight, that means 1/4 mile acceleration basically. Heck, if it really truly is stoplight to stoplight, the cruiser would have to back off and get on the brakes long before the sportbike to boot!

What are the Vmax's 1/4 mile times? I seem to remember it being in the high 11s, if not in low 12s. My 97 CBR600 F3, a CA model, with a slip on only had 83 horsepower at the rear wheel, and about half that in torque. I consistently ran 11.2-11.3 in the 1/4 at a speed of around 125 miles an hour. That's 100cc above your 500cc figure, and it's a California model lacking about 8-10 horsepower. I've run in the mid to high 10s on a GSX-R 750, at over 130 miles an hour.
 

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Me? a cruiser guy?

Me, a cruiser guy? Hell, my "other" bike is a Ducati 996S (with worn out Pilot Sport tires that I need to replace because I've used them on the track too much; plan to buy some real race ones any day now, ha). I am a sport bike guy who has long seen the merits in cruisers for my street bike and wanted a fast one because I'm a sportbike guy at heart. Geez.

Is the VTX faster that the Duc in some power bands? It sure feels like it 0-30. Maybe its the way you sit in a cruiser that makes it seem so damn fast, the wind nearly ripping the bars from your hands. Or maybe it's all that torque.
 

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Rob Nance

You seem to be the one with the memory problem. The V-Max normally runs 10.8's. I've seen times as low as 10.2's with a stock V-Max.

748 Abuser

I seriously doubt if an unmodified NSR500 will run high 10's.
 
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