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Hey Roadstain... I have been pondering the idea of getting a dedicated stunt bike for next season. I would like to get into the slower stuff and make my bike a primary stunter, but I like riding through the twisties and going 160mph too much. So I came to the conclusion that I will most likely get a bike to stunt next season. I wanted to know what your opinion would be though. I can either buy a new bike next season and make my current bike a stunter or sell my bike and buy a beat up bike and a new bike or just keep my current bike and buy a beat up bike for a stunter. Everyone says I would be crazy to make my current bike a stuntbike because it is pretty much flawless. I attached a picture of my current ride. Let me know your opinion on what I should do. Of course I would do stunting sprockets and chain, crash cage, 12 bar, etc. Everyones opinion is welcome, I just value roadstains opinion when it comes to stunting. thanks.
 

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Sounds like your options are very open. Personally, I think your bike looks pimp. You're comfortable with it. So you might as well keep it. If you can afford to buy a new bike next season, just buy a stunter. Find someone with an auction license (maybe even get one yourself) or look around on some sites. You can easily pick up a salvaged F4i or 636 (my 2 top picks for stunt bikes) for about 3500 bucks. Maybe less. You'd be amazed at how little damage most of them have too! Some zip ties and you're good to go! If you wanted to you could take all the plastics off and the headlight and whatever else and sell it for extra cash. My perfect setup, which you're more than welcomed to use..


Salvaged 636 = 2800
Acerbis headlight = 140
-1 + 12 Sprokets = 120 (with chain)
F.I. or 905 cage = 195

You can sell all the plastics but your tail or you can keep them. I like the streetfighter look. Less stuff to break. If you find one thats not completely trashed you can easilly make 3-400 dollars off sellin your headlight and plastics. which almost covers your stunt setup. After that you're good to go.

You can also go the other way. Take your gixxer, and set it up. Leave it with plastics or streetfightered. The choice is yours. Then pick up a pimp ass bike new or used and you're still in business. I'm kinda broke so I am leaning towards the salvaged stunt bike setup myself. The choice is yours though.

As far as making the salvage bike legit. Here in PA all you have to do is take 4 pictures of the bike. One from each side. And send them in with a money order. (forget how much but it's not bad) and they send you a rebuilt title. Perfectly legit and streetable. You take it and get it inspected and throw liability on it for like 100 bucks a year and you can ride it to and from the spot instead of risking gettin caught with a non legit bike or having to truck it. Not sure if your state is the same but I can't imagine it being much worse. You might have to have a trooper inspect it and make sure that you didn't use stolen parts to fix it. So keep your reciepts for everything You'll probably have to send those in. If life was perfect I'd have exactly what you have and my above mentioned stunt setup. Instead, I have an engine and swingarm that I'm trying to sell and some other random bullshit. Tryin to save money to move so I have a feeling a bike isn't gonna happen for a bit yet. Let me know what you decide to go with and if you need any help. I'm more than happy to do whatever I can. Good luck and enjoy stunting!!

~ the super :squid:
 

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I have had my eye on a new R1. I think I will maybe just buy another bike to stunt. I have soo much time and effort put into mine that I am going to just keep it. I am looking into buying a new car or truck so I will most likely put another bike on hold for now. I want to buy a trailer so I can trailer my cousins bike along with mine to the track. The nearest track to me is Louden. I live on long island so riding to the track and then racing all day is out of the question. Everyday I am just itching for a dedicated stunter. $$$ is the problem. Unfortunately I have limited cash and will never be able to afford "all" the things I want. I guess I have to take it one toy at a time. I am a hotrod car guy. I sold my car to get my bike, and bought a pickup. I am also itching to build another fast car, but the bikes are just more practical for the street. You get into a ton of shit if you get caught streetracing with a car. The bike is a safer bet.
 

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you can still "stunt" your gixxer. You just have to be a bit more careful with it. Not go quite all out with it. If you can live with the bike not being mint, it makes it that much easier. I like the new r1's but they carry one hell of a price tag. Its good to have your priorities straight though man. stunting can actually be really expensive when you're learning. Lots of shit breaks. Not as expensive as track racing, but it's up there. good luck with your choices and investments. Screw those things with 4 wheels. I sunk thousands into them only to find out how much better bikes are. Stay in the light my friend. Life is better one two wheels... and the best on 1!
 

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You are right about stunting my current bike, but it's just not the same as an all out stunter. I really wanted to get some track days in this season, but that fell through. Maybe I will just keep my bike, buy a trailer and go track racing. I am afraid that I am going to rip out my motor this winter and rebuild my bike again. I just can't help it. Something motivates me to buy expensive shit even if I don't need it.My current bike wheelies great, but I am still having trouble with the slower stuff. If I had some sprockets I think it would be much easier for me. Right now I am -1 on the front sprocket. That should be plenty for an all around street, track, stunt bike. I NEED MORE PRACTICE!!! If it is nice this weekend I may gear up and practice. If I fall I will just fix whatevers broken (even if it's an arm or leg). Maybe I can get one of my friends to take pictures and I will post em. Thanks ;)
 

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In NY I am pretty sure a trooper or someone has to inspect something with a salvaged title for stolen parts so ALL your paper work for everything has to be in order. Personally I would stay away from salvages in NY but that is your option.
 

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I am going to have to find out what the story is around hear with the salvage title. I can probobally get the info off the dmv website right. My father is a retired nyc cop, so whenever I buy a bike or car he calls up his friend in auto theft to run the numbers for me. This would help to assure that the motor and or frame are not stolen.
 

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You are right about stunting my current bike, but it's just not the same as an all out stunter. I really wanted to get some track days in this season, but that fell through. Maybe I will just keep my bike, buy a trailer and go track racing. I am afraid that I am going to rip out my motor this winter and rebuild my bike again. I just can't help it. Something motivates me to buy expensive shit even if I don't need it.My current bike wheelies great, but I am still having trouble with the slower stuff. If I had some sprockets I think it would be much easier for me. Right now I am -1 on the front sprocket. That should be plenty for an all around street, track, stunt bike. I NEED MORE PRACTICE!!! If it is nice this weekend I may gear up and practice. If I fall I will just fix whatevers broken (even if it's an arm or leg). Maybe I can get one of my friends to take pictures and I will post em. Thanks ;)
Sprockets will help a bit. Slow stuff is all in brake control. Definately get some pics! Good luck. Don't hurt anything!
 

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Salvaged 636 = 2800
Acerbis headlight = 140
-1 + 12 Sprokets = 120 (with chain)
F.I. or 905 cage = 195


haha Find me a salvage 636 with a decent (read: not mangled) frame for $2800 and I`ll give you my 900, plus a couple hundred bucks. (I looked for literally 2 months straight and the cheapest, rideable 636 was NEVER under $3500)

Acerbis light =over rated, but $50 on ebay. ($25 driving lights from wal mart work just as good)

Sprockets = rock your shit stock until you`re comfertable with the brake, sprockets just make it twitchier.

Again, let me know where you can get a cage (other than MXD`s street cage) for under $200, and I`ll buy 10 of them and re sell for a nice profit. (Ghetto no name ebay cages don`t count)







As for the original post, nothing is too nice to stunt:



 

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It doesn't look like I will be riding this weekend afterall. I am still waiting on my valve cover gasket. I checked the valve clearances on the bike and the gasket was shot. I had to order another one, but the stealership says it may not be hear till monday. As soon as I can get some pics I will post em.
 

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I got lucky and made friends with a guy who works for agrocycles and goes to auctions. He said he never pays more than 3500 for a bike and he's gotten everything. He's supposed to be looking for me. Only thing is, every time he gets something, he claims he can't sell it to me cause it has to go to agro or some shit. Granted it's only been a few days. I've seen a few 636 with straight frames go for about 3200 or so. Just gotta get lucky. As far as the acerbis goes, I just like it cause it's DOT approved so you can use it on the street without gettin hassled. Cages, I'm pretty sure that 905 and freestyle ingenuity cages are both under 200 bucks. I think the newer chromoly ones are goin for around 225 and up though. I guess I was off on the cage price. You're right about the sprockets too... definately twitchier. Just figured since he can already wheelie it might be worth a shot to do lot stunting and such.

Nice bike btw.
 

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I got lucky and made friends with a guy who works for agrocycles and goes to auctions. He said he never pays more than 3500 for a bike and he's gotten everything. He's supposed to be looking for me. Only thing is, every time he gets something, he claims he can't sell it to me cause it has to go to agro or some shit. Granted it's only been a few days. I've seen a few 636 with straight frames go for about 3200 or so. Just gotta get lucky. As far as the acerbis goes, I just like it cause it's DOT approved so you can use it on the street without gettin hassled. Cages, I'm pretty sure that 905 and freestyle ingenuity cages are both under 200 bucks. I think the newer chromoly ones are goin for around 225 and up though. I guess I was off on the cage price. You're right about the sprockets too... definately twitchier. Just figured since he can already wheelie it might be worth a shot to do lot stunting and such.

Nice bike btw.
You definatly can get a zx6 for that price at an auction, I just don`t have an auction license, or know anyone that does so I`m not that lucky.

As for the lights, I`m almost positive the light I have on my 9 is DOT legal, since its a driving light, but I can`t say for sure since I threw the box away, and I don`t really care what cops think ;)

F.I cages (JUNK) are $275, and 905 are $250. Powers WAS $235 when I bought it for my old gixxer, but I`m pretty sure Andrew (mofat01) said it was almost $300 for his new 1k, and that a week later Matt Powers said it was going up again... $300 for a cage is fuckin stupid, I`d rather pay the grand and buy my own pipe bender and have a go at it.

As for the sprockets, I agree they make it a hell of alot easier, but the dude doesn`t seem to keen on breaking his shit (maybe want to rethink stunting, but whatever), and I don`t think he ever mentioned the back brake (but I could be wrong, I just skimmed), so sprockets wouldn`t be my first choice. Alot of people get the idea that sprockets somehow change physics and make the balance point lower, and easier to reach.

And the bike... that gix was my old bike, its now in the hands of mofat01, and hes selling it, as you know. I miss that bike, I fuckin hate this 900.
 

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A friend of mine has an f.i. cage. It seems to be good quality and hold up great. As for the sprockets, I want to do some parking lot type stuff. Im keeping my eye out for maybe a 636, f4i, or gsxr 600 or 750 for a stunt bike. If I can grab one for a good price I will buy it.
 

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300+ for some bent steal? Jesus christ! Plus powers has HORRIBLE customer service. Thier shit isn't that great either. I'm not too keen on the 905 cages for gixxers. I had one on my 02 750 and when I was learning I destroyed my shins! After a while you get used to it and you don't hit it anymore. But I have permanant soft spots in my shins now! The other thing I didn't like about the 905 cage was that it didn't have and sliders on it. Any time the bike would go down at a diecent speed it would dig in and flip it. Shit pissed me off. Almost cost me the whole damn bike before. I'll post a pic of why wrecking coasters with a 905 is not good. The only bad thing I heard about 905 is that the hoop tends to bend pretty easy and it bends motor mounts. I didn't get to use mine much, but it was pretty good while it lasted.

As far as the auction license goes. I need to get my hands on one of those really fast! I would love to be able to pick up cheap bikes and hook some stunters up. Sadly I think you have to have like a dealer license and shit too to get a auction license. I dunno, I'll have to look into it. I juse know bikes go for cheap as hell there.

I was thinkin about fabbing up a headlight for my buddies 929. Some of those autozone HID fog lamps and some fiberglass. Be something fun to entertaining me. Besides, it's fun to put resin on your friends beer bottle and play edward 40 hands. Oh college, I do love thee. Just somethin abut the acerbis I like though. I dunno. Personal preference I guess. With the way I push it on here you'd think I owned the company or somethin haha. Honest, I don't :rolleyes:

As far as sprockets go. If you don't already have a smooth throttle hand and you wanna do slow stuff, they'll KILL you. Litterally. Throttle junkies and big sprockets are a recipe for disaster. It does really help though. I went from -1 +2 to -1 +12 on my gixxer once I really started gettin into it and it made it a million times easier. Ended up goin +20 once I got into just riding lots. And lowering the BP? haha.. yea I wish! I have no idea where people get that stuff.

Steve, Good choice of bikes. All really nice. Pinch your pennies and you should def be able to get one by next spring. The sprocket choice is yours. Just be smooth with it. You'll catch on. Good luck.

(this is why you must master brake control before attempting to stunt the shit out of your bike... oh, and pay attention and not be cocky helps a lot too!)
 

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One more just to get the point across...
 

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