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I've had plenty of "near death" experiences, one sticks out in my memory- riding in SE Oh. (of course), I'm leaned over nicely in a 60-70 mph left turn, my tires are near the right side of the lane, so my head is well inside my lane. As I come up a blind rise, a yokel in a 4X4 comes over the rise a good 2 feet into my lane. I did not change my line; tilting my head to the right was enough to (just) miss his mirror. Yikes!

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It reminds me of Indiana Jones & the last crusade, at the end, when Indy has his fingers on the Grail, and his father is losing his grip on him. Sean Connery says "Indy. Let it go." Sometimes you just have to pass on the most tempting situations. The payoff is twofold - 1) It gives you an excuse to turn around and have another go at it, and 2) You get to live. Riding is one of the few times in life that your life is completely in your own hands, as is the responsibilty for that life. If I ever let some damn fool hit me, I'll blame myself for allowing it to happen. Nothing like fear to renew your appreciation of life, is there?

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Here's one for the "I need to kick my own ass" notebook.

I rode my bike to work today. I work in Cleveland, and there are the Cleveland Metroparks about 5min. away from work. Today, on lunch, I went out to ride and met another rider in the parking lot, asked him if he wanted to cruise, and we headed for the park.

As we entered the park, it was kind of boring, but about 5min. into it the twisties started. Problem: too much traffic traveling the same way we were. Remedy: pass traffic so we can fully enjoy twisties.

I passed all the cars on a straight stretch with no problems, with the exception of one vehicle. I was annoyed because the best turn of the bunch was coming up. Well, as I went to pass the last vehicle, he decided to speed up, causing me to be in the opposing lane going into the turn I wanted to ride thru. Then comes a minivan straight at me. I had to hit the gas and just in time I was able to switch back into my lane mid-turn, lean it enough to hit the footpeg, so as to avoid the gravel on the other side, and correct myself.

This is honestly the first time I have actually felt that I was gonna die. I kept my composure and did everythig right, thank GOD. This is just an example of how unpredictable most cagers are.

I learned two things today, or maybe re-learned.

1- Don't pass people even if you are CLOSE to a blind turn (duh)

2- Don't assume you know what a cager's gonna do.

The dude behind me said I looked like I was in total control the whole time, but I felt a BAD lowside coming. Anyway: If you have any "near-death" tales to tell, let's hear 'em. It'll be a good learning thread for newbies, and a great reminder to all of us "experienced" riders. (although I believe that we NEVER stop learning)

Help me out with this one. I think we'll all benefit.

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Keep the Rubber side down
my Bruthas AND Sistas!!!

[This message has been edited by CBR Brutha (edited June 20, 2000).]
 

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Great topic man... There are some good topics
in this thread right now!! Wow!

First of all I'd like say that 1 out of
every, let's say, 5 rides something happens
that I feel I should have either thought
more about what I was doing, where I was
doing it or I should have done what I did at
all. Fortunatley I can't that VERY RECENTLY
I have anything that made my heart leave
my chest... It's has happened though, on the
R1 which means since March of 2000.

Yes, excellent call... Newbies need to know
about these things that more expirienced
riders allready know BUT the more expirienced
rider NEED the reminders b/c we start to
loose the safe atributes newbies have by the
nature of their newness... Intimidation...

On the street, and I say this as a reminder
to myself as well as others... Patience IS
a LIFE SAVING virtue...


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It's funny, you bring that up...I saw a guy, last night, come SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO friggin close to eating a tree....He comes down the road in back of my house and lets it rip...Gut went freakin SIDEWAYS around the turn, and bumped the tree, then took off..I don't know HOW he pulled that off...Glad to hear that you are still with us!!!!

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I never thought you could fall asleep on a bike, I mean youre almost sitting upright with wind blasting you, but it can happen. Two years ago I took a long trip, and while riding on I-80 in Nebraska(straight)in the middle of the night I started dozing off. Ended up falling asleep, I woke up when I heard gravel on the side. I rode off in the grass and somehow saved it. So, get some sleep, don't be trying to cover 2000 miles in 2 days like me.

TREvor

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Brutha, how long have you been riding? A guy I know, who has been riding for 15 or more years told me he reads all the cycle magazine for info cuz there is always something you don't think of yourself. (2 or more heads are better than 1) ;) He also told me that whenever he has a "close call" or someone has a getoff, he goes back over the scene to do his own "crash investigation" to find out why things happened. Don't be lulled into a sense of safety, especially around cars, etc. I always ride on the OFFENSIVE. I want to be the one to make things happen when I ride, not someone else.....I almost forgot.... :) :) :)

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I have been riding since around 11 or 12 yrs. old. So...7 or 8 years (I'm 19...almost 20). I started quads earlier than that, but that was when I started on 2-wheeled motorized funmakers. I feel like a newbie when I hear of people riding for 15 - 20 years. I think that more important than years, is riding maturity, if there is such a thing.

It's kinda like drinking. In U.S., drinking age is 21. There are 50 yr. olds who should NOT be drinking, while there are 18yr. olds who I'm sure could be perfectly responsible drinkers. Same goes for biking. It's more the mindset and what you do with your experience than anything else.

Just my $.02

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Keep the Rubber side down
my Bruthas AND Sistas!!!

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Yo Trevor, glad you were able to save it when you hit the grass on your bike. I hit it in my truck once and I could barely control it. Happy that you're still with us. :D

P.S. I am an EXTREMELY heavy sleeper, and can fall asleep almost anywhere, so your advice doesn't go unheeded!

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Keep the Rubber side down
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Aril, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CBR Brutha:
snip...There are 50 yr. olds who should NOT be drinking...snip

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Hey now, don't forget about Kyle J's age bracket too!



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There are times when we forget that there is no trophy at the end of the road. And that the only award you will recieve will be your headstone. I too have had close calls due to losing that safe-sense, or being overconfident. I remember when I was a "newbie" I felt like I was really good after I learned only a little bit about riding. When I hit that point CRASH!!! . Every now and then I have to do a reality check and think about what could happen and if it's really worth the risk.

Ride Smart, Ride Safe, and Ride Longer :cool:

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I think the biggest problem for me is daydreaming. I catch myself doing that on long rides. You come up to a curve and "Oh, s*it! Too fast!" I have had a few of those.
I can see falling asleep also. I leave my girlfriend's at 3:30 in the morning to make it to work. She lives two hours away, and I can feel myself falling asleep. No near death experiences there, but I can see how it can happen. Stopping and walking around helps that alot!

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LOTS of near death/should be dead situations.

a few months ago.. we were out on a road that twists & turns next to an airbase. we went through it & back to get a feel.. then just like a bunch of horses we are off.. i get out in front & a 900rr is nippin at my heals.. we go through a set of s's fast & didnt brake for the up comin right after them.. WAY WIDE.. into the next lane.. thank god there were no cars but there were signs, a small ditch then a rocky hill. we both freak & let off the gas.. wider.. we both realize WHAT THE F*CK DID I JUST DO WE BOTH KNOW BETTER.. & get back on the gas & i (dont know about him) feather the rear brake to just make the corner (kind of ironic that i just read about that technique in sport rider a few days prior).. we slow down, stop at the designated spot & just look at each other & shake our heads.

lots of near cage stuff.. lots of stupid mistakes. but each close call either makes u a little better... ive noticed that my close calls are getting fewer & further between.

great fun for everyone.

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Cagers, you gotta love 'em.

The worst I have ever had was a new dealer tagged Ford Expedition change lanes at the Toll Booth entrance and forces me to grab the brakes and perform probably the best stoppie of my life.

The cager then had the audacity to honk at me like is was my fault that I was in a lane of traffic. It has been my experience to just let things like that go and finish your ride.

Keep it safe

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Glad you are a survivor today, bro. ;) Here is a similar tale. Riding with a buddy. Me on a pristine '95 ZX6R - springs/revalve, pipe/jets, kev lines, ign. adv. etc. Joe, on his Monster, of course I was smokin' him :p! Almost to the bottom of the mtn. thru a hairpin ran up on two vehicles with a small gap between 'em. I could see clear to pass the 1st. There was a little kink in the road, so I couldn't see past the 2nd. Now, I got so much closing speed I'm thinkin' I can go for it! :eek:
But, whoa, right as I'm next to the 2nd cage, here comes a car toward me! :eek: I grab the biggest handful of brakes!! The bike goes into a HUGE rolling stoppie!! The rear end starts to come around on me. I'm thinkin' this ain't gonna work. I let off the brakes and cram the bike over in front of the 2nd car as the oncoming cage eases off the shoulder to give me a little room. :rolleyes: You know what I didn't even get a trophy! :( Live and learn :)

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10 years ago a friend and I were coming home from hunting and came across a biker who had just rode off the road and high sided about 75 feet down a cliff.

We stopped and tried to provide first aid until paramedics arrived. This guy was major F'ed up,--- real bad.
That guy died in my arms that day, while waiting for the local volunteer fire dept. to show up. Over 30 mins.

I have seen several motorcycle accidents before, but this one hit me hard
I never even new his name. I imagine it would have been much worse on me if I did know him.

From that day on, I've had his image burned in my mind.

Now, whenever I have a close call because of not paying attention or pulling a stupid and I get that" holy sh*t that was close" feeling in my stomach. My fryed brain pops an image of John Doe and that's all it takes to get my happy ass back in check.
"Anybody know a good shrink?"
While his death was tragic and I wish it had never happened I know it's probably saved my life.---several times.
Our prayers go out to all our fallen riders. Here, Here


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:( damn thats deep.

ive only seen very small accidents where the worst injury is a little road rash. i ride w/some guyz that saw an r6 rider go wide off a mountain corner fly so many feet down the cliff & hit helmet first on the only rock in the field.. damn.. makes u think.

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Last week my dad and I were roofing a house and it started pouring rain we were hurring up to get a tarp on the house wile my dad was spreading it out I went to get a hammer and nails to nail down the tarp when I was going back up the wet ladder about 2 rungs from stepping on the roof i slipped and fell but that is not what almost killed me someone had drivin a peice of rebar in the ground to tie a string to mark off were a garden was going to be it clipped my ear and tore up my ear lobe pretty good if I would have fell about 3 inches to the right it would have gone through my brain stem :D oh yea I screwed up my back pretty bad to

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This is great. Not only is this serving as a reminder to me, but this is great for newbies to read as well. This is the reason I love this site so much: people willing to share what they feel and have learned, and everyone benefits from it. Keep 'em coming guys/gals...

P.S. Kyle; glad you're OK. Hope that ack heals quickly. Mines slowly healing (boating accident), so I know how you feel.
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Keep the Rubber side down
my Bruthas AND Sistas!!!

[This message has been edited by CBR Brutha (edited June 20, 2000).]
 

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I just had a chance to make a story last weekend. There is this great stretch of twisties by where I live in SoCal called Ortega Hwy. Well seeing as how I had just purchased a fullsuit w/kneesliders, I figured I'd try to put them to good use. Well the first time you drag your knee, its like "oh shit this feels weird." But as you get used to it, its like a drug and you can't get enough. End result, I kept pushing and pushing till my bike just said no more and one day the back end lost traction and slid out. Next thing I know, my bike disappears and I tumble thinking "dear god don't let me hit any jagged objects." Well god must have been listening because after crashing at 75mph through a 25mph corner into the side of a mountain, I was able to walk(more like a gimp-like stumble) away from it, only to view this half naked piece of twisted metal which used to be a beautiful 98F3. What did I learn from this? Don't ever forget to extend your kneeslider out to gauge how much clearance you have left, and don't ever take dunlop D204s completely out to the edge unless its a really really hot day because they don't give you any indication that they're about to give until they do. Bottom line, pray alot. Oh, and don't go faster than you or your bike can handle.

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