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Can you name other Honda experiments that failed except the XL250S 23 inch wheel?

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The hondamatic transmissions?

Believe it or not..!!!

my dad and i bought a '79 Honda Civic for about 300 bones...
with the hondamatic transmission..
so there is Park, Reverse, Neutral, 2nd, 1st..
no D for drive, nothing, just two gears...haha

we welded a trailer hitch to the bumper and pulled a 4x12 steel trailer with TWO four-wheelers at 80 mph...!!!!
no kidding...it was hilarious....i never thought it would do it

hondamatics ROCK....
 

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Well it seems that Hondamatic wasn't so bad :rolleyes:

Squared pistons :D Good one!

I know there are more...

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Automatic cam chain tensioners on their first V-fours.
Tubeless spoked wheels.
Square styling! (Dream anyone):barf:
Odyssey.
The claim that a GL1000 was a superbike!:confused:
Linked brakes
Comstar wheels (took a while)
3 wheelers:eek:
TL 250 trials bike
First outboards (sold well, but were a salt-chuck nightmare)
Did I mention linked braking systems:rolleyes:
Gotta..Stop.....feeling.......ssick:barf:
 

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The FL250/350 Odyssey, or the minivan? Or both? :D
Odysseys were a hoot, unless you were
hanging upside down by the seat belts.
Dont ask how I know.....:D
 

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Automatic cam chain tensioners on their first V-fours.
Tubeless spoked wheels.
Square styling! (Dream anyone):barf:
Odyssey.
The claim that a GL1000 was a superbike!:confused:
Linked brakes
Comstar wheels (took a while)
3 wheelers:eek:
TL 250 trials bike
First outboards (sold well, but were a salt-chuck nightmare)
Did I mention linked braking systems:rolleyes:
Gotta..Stop.....feeling.......ssick:barf:
Wow Grok, long list :)

Auto chain tensioners are still used widely, they probably messed up something with the first VFRs back then.

What was wrong with the tubeless spoked wheels really? I know they used them only on the XL600LM (see previous trivia), but I don't know what was the problem (if there was one).

I would never ride a bike with linked brakes ;) What if I need place my bike in a turn by brake sliding the rear?

Comstars actually looked nice back then for some people. I never like them though.

I know Honda won the world championship with Eddie Lejeune on a TL250, but I suppose it was 'quite' different from what you could buy.


Comme on guys, what else??

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Honda was also the first one to use 16 inch wheels, quite a dissapointment eh?

And guess what was the first bike to have them? The famous NR500 of 1979!
And of course this bike had many new features as well! Some are still considered extraordinary.
- Oval pistons for one, they became succesful later on the 750 machine that sweeped WSB before FIM ruled it out.
- Monocoque chassis (ZX12 has it after more than 20 years and it's considered as very advanced)

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Wow Grok, long list :)

Auto chain tensioners are still used widely, they probably messed up something with the first VFRs back then.

What was wrong with the tubeless spoked wheels really? I know they used them only on the XL600LM (see previous trivia), but I don't know what was the problem (if there was one).

I would never ride a bike with linked brakes ;) What if I need place my bike in a turn by brake sliding the rear?

Comstars actually looked nice back then for some people. I never like them though.

I know Honda won the world championship with Eddie Lejeune on a TL250, but I suppose it was 'quite' different from what you could buy.


Comme on guys, what else??

Aris
The tensioners on the early v-fours was uniquely crappy, the spring loaded rod would bind where it went through the steel pivot plate. Then no more reliable tension on the cam chain.
Those sexy spoked tubeless wheels? spoke breakage and lack of tire selection created a resounding FLOP!
Comstars developed play in the rivets over time, I don't think there were any catastrophic failures, but there were warning signs! You may recall they were dropped quietly and suddenly.

Got some more....
How about that groovy dual range tranny on the 900 custom?:confused:
Who could forget the enclosed disc on the 550/4, that was brilliant.:p
Turbo charged pushrod v/twin anyone? Nice simple bike :rolleyes:
How about those sweet sounding six cylinder CBX's, they never took off like they hoped. They did sound great!
I'll let someone else get some more.
 

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'Who could forget the enclosed disc on the 550/4, that was brilliant.'

Yeah I was keeping this one for last actually. I didn't think anyone would remember that ;)

The idea was to improve braking in the wet. This was before it was discovered that sinterd pads are not affected in the wet!
In any case these brakes were overheating easily and then...no brakes :rolleyes:

Here's a picture for those who don't remeber them, or haven't seen them at all!
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MVX250F

Does anybody remember these, or (even worse) owned one of them?
It had a self disintegrating 2 stroke 3 cylinder engine AND the great enclosed discs...big success!

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