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My VFR will be gone by next spring but I don't know exactly what I'm going to replace it with. I've narrowed it down to the below. Now remember I'm 6'4" around 230 lbs depending on the week. Because of this Suzuki's and Yamaha's are out of the question. So here's what I'm contemplating:
'01 CBR1100XX
'01 929
'01 ZX9
'01 ZX12
'01 Aprillia Futura

Without turning this into a full page, the pros and cons of each are

CBR1100 - Pros: very rare, more than enough power, comfortable, centerstand, fuel injection, full instrument panel, smooth as silk, not flashy.

- Cons: Not sure on the color, inline four, heavy, catlytic convertor, heavy, slow in corners, no solo seat or seat cowl, no adjustability in rear shock.

929 - Pros: light, power, the black and yellow color, fuel injection, handling, full suspension adjustablity, not that flashy.

- Cons: everybody has them, considered a squid mount(no offense), not exactly a long ride bike, ergonomics, crappy two up riding, inline four, kinda flashy, no centerstand, lack of seat cowl or solo seat.

ZX-9R - Pros: power, good looking, ergonomics, great engine.

- Cons: No fuel injection(maybe), Black Mica is not offered, kinda too flashy without the Black Mica, no centerstand, kinda loopey in the turns, weight, lack of seat cowl or solo seat, no centerstand, everyone has them.

ZX-12R - Pros: POWER, fuel injection, not everyone will have one, torque, probably great ergonomics, probably decent two up riding.

- Cons: Glitches to be worked out, kinda almost ugly, heavy, slow in turns, might not be a good passenger bike, inline four, no centerstand.

Aprillia - Pros: V-TWIN, single sided swingarm, not everyone will have one, underseat exhaust, torque, sound, seems nice looking, ergonomics, good two up riding, fuel injection, centerstand, not flashy.

- Cons: Pricey, not much different than the VFR(it's made to directly compete), might be light on power, no solo seat or seat cowl, probably heavy, first year blues.

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'00 VFR(keeping it)
-Pros: comfy, V-4, yellow, not everyone has them, not flashy, seat cowl, decent two up riding, ergonomics, centerstand, full exhaust and k&n filter already, single sided swingarm, fuel injection, good looking(IMO)

-Cons: Power, weight, need a change, 9,000 miles(not a big deal), no trunk.

Well that's it. I would love to hear your opinions. Sorry for the book, but that's my thinking so far. You can see a trend on what I look for in a bike, or don't look for. I really like single sided swingarms so that's a con on all but the last two. Seems like my height really hampers my options unfortunately. :)

Looks like I turned this into a full page. :)

Ian

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ian i would go for the xx or 12r, aprilla's are cool but i doent know how reliable they are,when i got rid of my vfr my choices were xx, 12r,9r, busha, i picked the xx caus its a great bike

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Ok Ok, I'm going to to say the XX, I know it's a bit one eyed.

Your a big bloke, and I think the bird would do pretty well, also cat cons can be ripped out (they must be somthing you have in the states, cause we don't have em?).

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Thanks for the replies guys.

The XX is gonna have cats this year from what I've heard. Supposedly it will be like the VFR in that they strived to keep the power the same after adding the cat.

The rumours are that somehow Honda massaged another 11hp out of the bird even with the cat. Which seems pretty exciting since I would rip that off before the first service. :)

But then again, I still have my FI light on from when I bought my exhaust for the VFR and got rid of the cat.

It's boiled down to the XX and 929, with the 12R a far third.

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First of all, at your size nothing is going to be very comfortable. :(I'm not quite as tall but I do weigh more.

I did not realize that Kawi was discontinuing the Mica color on the 9R. :( That would have been my recommendation. ;)

I don't think you could go wrong with either bike although a first year Aprilia might be a risk. :)

I would say the XX sounds like the best choice if you expect to do any type of touring or two-up riding. :cool:

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two questions, why no suzuki or yamaha? okay i can understand the r1, it's tight, but gsxr is very comfy.

anyway, back to what you like...

if you want something a little sporty than your vfr--zx9r

if you want a purer sportbike--929.

if you want a vfr with a boat load of power--xx (maybe hayabusa and you won't have those lbs and cats, and whatever else honda bolts on to it).

if you're happy with you vfr, why not keep it?

maybe a bandit 1200 is in your future

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cbrf2boy:
two questions, why no suzuki or yamaha? okay i can understand the r1, it's tight, but gsxr is very comfy.

anyway, back to what you like...

if you want something a little sporty than your vfr--zx9r

if you want a purer sportbike--929.

if you want a vfr with a boat load of power--xx (maybe hayabusa and you won't have those lbs and cats, and whatever else honda bolts on to it).

if you're happy with you vfr, why not keep it?

maybe a bandit 1200 is in your future

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I have weighed all options and Suzuki's aren't for me. The Tiller is probably the best fit but if I'm not on the highway with it my arms and hands go numb. I haven't been on a Tiller long enough to see how my legs would feel. I also rode a '97 Gixxer 750, while it was exciting as hell I couldn't own one as my one and only bike.

The ZX-9 is a great bike but I want fuel injection. I can't believe Kawi and Yammi haven't woke up to Fuel Injection yet. :)

A bandit is out of the question. I am a full fairing kind of guy. :)

The only thing that concerns me about the XX is the weight, not so much parking lot maneuvering(sp?)(working out has it's privelages :)) but fast twisties. If it handles any worse than the VFR I will be very disappointed.

The 929 scares me for any type of long riding or two up riding.

I could be keep the VFR but it's about to click 9,000 miles and I'm definitely not satified with the power of the bike.

Thanks again for the replies.

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ian i went from a vfr to a xx it handles great, i thought it wouldn't, i have no problem with it and i'm not as big as you, i'm 5'10 225 lbs, for your size i think it fit great

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dave:
ian i went from a vfr to a xx it handles great, i thought it wouldn't, i have no problem with it and i'm not as big as you, i'm 5'10 225 lbs, for your size i think it fit great

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So you think it's about as good as the VFR?? Or does it want to push through corners??

I really should email you offline to ask you some specific questions... I don't know how happy I am with the Candy Red color. I like the grey for some odd reason, with the black frame and all.

Not too mention the possible catlytic convertor debacle like the VFR.

Thanks again for the info.

Did you ever get the power commander, filter and exhaust on??

Ian

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Why not a Triumph Sprint ST or Daytona? Lots of torque, handle well, and from all accounts, at least the ST is more comfortable than the bikes you've mentioned. I don't know about the Daytona. Both have more power than the VFR you're riding now, and are fully faired.

Just curious as to why they've been ruled out...



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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BikerDad:
Why not a Triumph Sprint ST or Daytona? Lots of torque, handle well, and from all accounts, at least the ST is more comfortable than the bikes you've mentioned. I don't know about the Daytona. Both have more power than the VFR you're riding now, and are fully faired.

Just curious as to why they've been ruled out...

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The ST is not a step up from the VFR, IMO it's a step down. Triumph built that bike to go at the VFR and they failed to do so. It is not more powerful than the VFR, and certianly got hit with the ugly stick. :) I think if it is any more comfortable than any of the other's mentioned it's not by much and I think the VFR has it beat still. Can you tell I'm not a big fan of the ST/RS?? :)

My friend owns a Daytona and it's not even a remotely comfy bike, IMO. I would love to own one but I could never be on that bike for more than 30 minutes at a time. Not too mention it's not that much faster than the VFR... I'm looking to find a better performing yet just as comfy bike as the VFR I guess.

Thanks for the suggestions.


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Don't forget the new GSXR1000 as an option :D :D:


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Not at my height it's not. :)

No way in hell I'm fitting on that for more than a half hour at a time. I don't want that kind of ride for a primary bike. Perfect for a second bike but I don't have the money for that.

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Okay, here's my .02..! I'm 6'4", and about 230 lbs, so I'm a big guy too. I used to own a ZX-11 Ninja, and it was fine, but I got it in 1992 and I was ready for a new bike. Last July I looked around much the same as you are doing for just the right ride. I went down and sat on all the "top of the line" bikes. The motorcycle I bought is the Suzuki Hayabusa. This is one monster machine, and in the blue and silver paint it is awesome. I've been riding the bike about a year now (put up during this nasty winter), and I wouldn't trade it for any bike on the planet. I love being able to pass any bike, and I mean any bike, any time I feel like it. I was riding with another guy (he has a Honda 929) and I passed him when he was really getting into the power band of his bike. He came up to me later and said that he was in a full tuck with the motor completely unwound when I passed him, and I was in 5th gear. I love this bike. Go down to the Suzuki dealership and compare how you feel in the saddle. Maybe some considerate friends will allow you to gently ride their bikes for comparison. Here's what mine looks like.
 

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I agree with MFFJM2, but of course I'm biased :D
But to stick with your original list I'd say get the ZX12. More comfortable than the others and power is tops. The best thing is that you can find a brand new one for LESS than the ZX9!
 
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Umm, in case you guys didn't notice, Ian's original post is some 7 months old, and he already has his new bike. ;)
 
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