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I'm 18 and selling my MR2 and want something different. I will always have a car to drive because my dad is a used car wholesaler. Gas is so exspensive it just seems like it would be nice to have something to putt around the city. Would probably take me a while before I even approached the freeway, and no I'm not having my mommy buy me a brand new bike.

I want something nice to start off with, cheap, reliable, not too fast. Mind you I know almost NOTHING about this stuff, so tell me everything I should know. I plan on taking the MSF course in Mission Viejo also.



What am I looking at for a nice little setup? ( Leather, bike, helmet, maitenance ) My budget is about $4000 cash. I've been looking into the Kawasaki 500r a bit. Maybe a 90's model? Anyone know any good places to go for, for gear and all that good stuff in Southern Orange County?
 

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I'm 18 and selling my MR2 and want something different. I will always have a car to drive because my dad is a used car wholesaler. Gas is so exspensive it just seems like it would be nice to have something to putt around the city. Would probably take me a while before I even approached the freeway, and no I'm not having my mommy buy me a brand new bike.

I want something nice to start off with, cheap, reliable, not too fast. Mind you I know almost NOTHING about this stuff, so tell me everything I should know. I plan on taking the MSF course in Mission Viejo also.



What am I looking at for a nice little setup? ( Leather, bike, helmet, maitenance ) My budget is about $4000 cash. I've been looking into the Kawasaki 500r a bit. Maybe a 90's model? Anyone know any good places to go for, for gear and all that good stuff in Southern Orange County?
quite a different approach from a car to a bike. it's good you want to start the msf course and start with a smaller bike. your already thinking smart. if your budget is about 4,000 you could do a little better than the 500r. especially a 90. try looking in the 600's class there is a lot more options. looking for sportbike?
 

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Definitely a sports bike. The reason I'm selling the car and getting a bike is because I will still have a car, just a random beater or something to get me around. The bike will be for around town and just tiny things, weekend fun. The $4000 includes my equipment too, not just the bike. After doing a tiny bit of research it seemed like the 500r was one of the most ideal starter bikes and that the 600 might be a little too much.


My plan right now is to get a nice starter bike then after a lot of time upgrade to a faster/better one obviously. Thats just my idea though, who knows what will really happen.


Also, for the MSF, can I just jump right into it or do you have to have completed a DMV test or something of the sort? Do you need that to take the MSF test?
 

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Being a Cdn I cannot suggest good places to look for bikes. Still the idea of a 500cc vertical twin by Suzy or Kwacker is a darn good move & then later you can step up to a sportbike. Probably a good used one for then you will also know what to look out for in abuse, wear & tear. Along with the ability to ride such a bike due to the 500 you will have riden for a season or so.
 

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As far as MSF goes, you don't have to take any preliminary tests to qualify; just sign up and be prepared. I'm in California also and I've signed up for a May 2nd through May 5th course at Mt. San Antonio College. When you sign up, they'll just need to confirm your Class C endorsement (Driver's license). I'd recommend the Kawasaki EX 250; I think it looks much sharper than the 500. Plus, you'll learn alot quicker on the 250, but the 500 is an excellent starter bike also. I guess it's all up to you.
 

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I'd look around for a good deal on an older 600. A 97 F3 was my first bike, and she's been good to me so far.
 

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Well I went to the local Kawasaki/Yamaha dealer. Looked around for 15 minutes and the only salesmen that I think were there didn't care or bother to help. Guess they figured I looked like a kid with no money, haha. There is a place in El Toro called Cycle City, might check it out. I think I might just buy it private, but I need to find someone to help me check it out and all.

Also for the MSF I have to wait until the semester is over before I can even take the class :/ because I have class on Thursday nights. So I'm gonna have to wait or find another place.
 

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I think you might be stuck with a 250 from the budget you have.

A used 500 would be the best bet but you have to find one for sale first...

Though the gear is going to run you about 250-300 for a full face helmet, jacket, and gloves, but that's not going to be great riding gear but it should get you by if your riding on a 250. Since you will be riding around town at 40-50 anyways.

I've started on a budget as well, not to long ago. You not going to like getting on the highway on the 250. It gets blown around way to much on windy days and it's running at 9k rpm at highway speeds. The bike can handel it but it doesn't make for a very good ride:p

Just watch out that you don't down shift one gear to low. The back tire will want to spin out. That and there are a lot of complaints about the suspension as it's 15 years old by now.

Your still sure to have a lot of fun on it;-) trust me.
 

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I'm pretty set on the 500r. I can probably spend up to $5,000


What do you guys think is a good price for a 2002 or 2005 500r? The 2005's seem to be going for $4,000-4,500, almost seems like you might as well buy a new one?
 

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You are aiming in the correct direction for the 500cc vertical twins are faster off the line then most cages & can probably scoot you up to 100mph which is a mean pace.

They are probably the best bikes to learn on along with riding around town due to the normal or regular riding position & are no slouch on the hwy where they have the power to where you can easily pick up speeding tickets.

True a 250 is a good bike & fun to ride, but when it comes to hwy & power they lack that nice mid-range power of the 500cc bikes. Keep it in good shape & it will sell well as so many are looking around for a good used 500 as a starting bike.

Remember back in the late 40s to sometime in the 70s the 500cc twin or single was a hot trotting bike with single cam drum brakes & often with very little travel in the front end to even ridged rear ends, all with kick-starting to fire up the engine & they did tend to rattle apart. Though the bikes I am suggest you look at are extremely far advanced to those days & engine power is equal to a well tuned 500cc single or twin that might get a rider up to 90mph. So times have changed.
 
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