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News is that the FJR 1200, a Kawi sport tourer based on the ZX11 motor and a ST1100 replacement will be in the US next year.
I guess enough people yelled loud enough about the FJR that Yamaha decided to bring it over!
 

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FJR... I'll pass.

I was all wound up to get a new FJR... that is untill I actualy encountered one this summer in England. While the press has played up the FJR as the ultimate sport-touring machine, the reality is that it tends heavily to the touring side of the equation. Foremost because it is heavy, really heavy. I don't know what the actual weight is but my unofficial rock it up off the sidestand guesstimate would put it at 100-150lbs heavier than my RF900. The position is also much more akin to my father's Goldwing than any sport bike I have ever been aboard. The pegs are quite low, and the bars hover 5" above an already elevated triple clamp. Swinging a leg over the FJR, assuming the position, and hoisting it off the stand, was one of the most disappointing moments I can recall.

I, for one, will wait untill the Kawasaki ZX11 based bike is released, before considering a change in rides. As it stands the Concours is already a far sportier, cheaper, presently available choice.
 

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Haven't they been saying that about the FJ for a couple of years now, but found the interest in sports cruisers too soft in the U.S.? As for the ST, I would be shocked if we didn't see a completely new one in the Milan show. Seems like the most widely acknowledged rumor is that overhauls will be made to the ST and VFR.
 

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michael seaman said:
.....I, for one, will wait untill the Kawasaki ZX11 based bike is released, before considering a change in rides. As it stands the Concours is already a far sportier, cheaper, presently available choice.
The Concours is SPORTIER than the FJR1300?

I always considered the Connie one step below that of a Goldwing. If what you say is true, I think I'll just get the VFR. I can tolerate oiling the chain!! :)
 

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I didn't get a chance to demo the FJR, but based on position, and heft, I'd take the Concours.
I don't know what a Concours is but I can say that the FJR handles very well for such a hefty bike. It's long wheelbase makes it very stable & I felt very secure throwing it through the twisties. Sure, it is no sportsbike but it does well for the market it's aimed at. The only gripe I can really aim at it is the quality of finish. The motor is a peach, very torquey & smooth. The shaft drive is not really noticable and I could go on but I'm not getting paid for this road test !! :D
 
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michael seaman said:
the reality is that it tends heavily to the touring side of the equation.
...as evidenced by the "ape-hanger" handle bars. :D
 

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Honda ST1100- shaft drive, far smoother than the concourse. but bang for the buck Concourse rules:D :D Name another bike for under $8500 out the door 3 year warrenty with hard bads standard Equipment:eek: :)
 

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The Concours is SPORTIER than the FJR1300?

I always considered the Connie one step below that of a Goldwing. If what you say is true, I think I'll just get the VFR. I can tolerate oiling the chain!! :)
I'd put the connie even lower on that scale!!!

I can't wait untill I can get my hands on the FJR of a updated ST...:)
 

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The Concours is SPORTIER than the FJR1300?
I recently saw an FJR1300 at Deals Gap (someone in TN. has imported one) and came away unimpressed. Based on the size/weight, I’d have to say the Concours is probably just as sporting (if not more so) than the FJR. Yamaha’s discontinued GTS1000 was a much more interesting machine than their FJR1300.

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I don't know what a Concours is...
Apparently the best kept secret in motorcycling, based on the number of folks who don’t know what it is/never heard of it. I bought my new ’86 in ’87, when the dealers couldn’t give ‘em away! At the time I was touring on an ’85 600 Ninja, and the Concours was exactly what I was looking for. Divorce took care of the old Ninja, but I’m recently back with an ’01 ZX-6R. The way the magazines like to rag on the 6R, it could very well be one of motorcycling’s newest, best kept secrets? I read one site’s online review where the 6R got ragged on during tests, but the writers noted that when folks at the office were headed out for a real-world ride, many of them grabbed the 6R! ‘Course, Dave Sadowski and other commentators like to yak about it being outdated machinery, but I guess no one bothered to tell Eric Bostrom or Andrew Pitt (AMA & World 600cc SuperSport champs). Lest you think I’m just a Kawasaki fan (which I’m beginning to be), I did consider the Yamaha R6, but the teenagers trying to sell ‘em to me wouldn’t knock a penny off (after telling me what a piece of crap the 6R was)! Got a whale of a deal on the old ‘outdated’ 6R at the Kawasaki shop!

I get pretty darn sporty on my Concours, and can tour on my 6R. At today’s prices, all my bikes better be able to pull double duty. ‘Course, I view the bikes I choose as a means to an end (adventure) and not simply an end unto itself. If (like most folks?) you view a bike as an end unto itself, you’ll probably not be impressed with the Concours these days, since after setting the standard when it was introduced, sport-tourers are now coming out of the woodwork. The newer models may have more bells/whistles etc, but do they really get you down the road any better than the Concours? If so, I’d wager the difference is pretty small (heck, we won’t even talk price)! The Concours is the only (old) bike that comes to mind that I would buy again if I were in the market for a new bike. I believe it’s the only bike I can say that about, as the OEM folks always come out with something a year or two down the road I’d rather have than my current bike. The fact that I would buy a 15 year old design again speaks volumes about how right Kawasaki got the Concours when originally introduced, and (Yamaha GTS aside), how disappointed I’ve been with all the more/better/faster sport-tourers introduced over the years.
 

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Yeah, the Connie has been around forever, and unchanged for 5 or more years. Therefore, I was surprised to see it on the cover of the November "Motorcycle Tour & Cruiser."

I mean, I didn't think anyone would even test ride the thing, let alone give it a cover. It caught my eye because when researching bikes it seemed like a heck of a deal. Subsequent research confirmed it was indeed a "sleeper," and a great bang for the buck.

The review was extrememly favorable.
 
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