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I've finally got the M3's I won mounted and had a chance to give them a little workout on the street. My previous tires were Diablo Corsa III's so I knew I was going to be a tough cookie to please, however these tires did a fantastic job.

My ride starts off with a long sweeping right hander thats about 3/4 of a full circle. Its a great place to get her leaned over at high speeds. Usually I judge what kind of ride its going to be by how confident I am on it. The first thing I noticed is that the tires gave me confidence to keep rolling on the throttle all the way through the curve. To me this means that they had a quick warm up and good front tire feedback. I was able to hold my line with ease which was also awesome.

Once I got to the twisites the biggest thing I noticed is that the front tire gives feedback at a lower pace than the Corsa III's did. In order to get good feedback from the Corsa III's I'd have to be riding pretty hard. The M3's were giving me feedback as I was working up to speed. I did notice that it took a little more effort to get them leaned over than the Corsa's. Once the bike was leaned over it fell into full lean very easily and progressively. These tires allowed me to change my line pretty easily. The M3's were also really good under hard braking. They were extremely stable and gave me more than enough confidence to keep adding more and more pressure to the lever.

Overall the M3's make an excellent street tire and I'd definately use them for anything I'd ever throw at them on the street. This Thursday I'll be taking them to the track to really see what they can do!
 

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Sweet! :cool:
 

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nice! looking forward to the track review!
 

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Meat_Shield said:
nice! looking forward to the track review!
Well we will see how good of a review it is. 40% chance of rain right now.

I swear somebody is against me. Of the 4 track days I've done I've seen rain at 2 of them. If it rains on Thursday I'll be 3 of 5, WTF is that?!?
 

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I'm also looking forward to the track review since I'm running on some pretty squared-off Pilot Powers which may not pass tech inspection when I head up to Mid-Ohio next month.
 

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Which leads me to a question... How do you check tread depth effectively?
i am curious as well. just how much rubber is left once you get to the bottom of the tread?
 

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OSUrid3r said:
Which leads me to a question... How do you check tread depth effectively?
I bought a pressure gauge which has a tread depth tool on the other end and I've used it extensively. To determine what is acceptable some understanding of what the tire started with helps. Alternately, I could give you the numbers from my Diablo.
 

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OSUrid3r said:
I'm also looking forward to the track review since I'm running on some pretty squared-off Pilot Powers which may not pass tech inspection when I head up to Mid-Ohio next month.
Will you be running Mid-Ohio with STT? I was really close to signing up for that date!

Anyways, to pass tech most groups will ask for over 50% of tread left, however I've gotten away with less. Generally they want the most tread on the sides of the tires since thats where they are used the most. I'm pretty sure they don't like squared off tires though.

From the sounds of it I'd most likely slap on a new set of tires. They are the thing that keeps your bike upright!
 

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Will you be running Mid-Ohio with STT?
You got it! September 24th. Can't wait! It'll probably rain... hard. It'll be my first track day and the initial startup costs are just astronomical. I really wanted to get a day in before the end of the season otherwise I'd be regretting it the whole winter. I'll post up how it goes and during the meanwhile I've got a few question I'll send over in a PM.
 

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You got it! September 24th. Can't wait! It'll probably rain... hard. It'll be my first track day and the initial startup costs are just astronomical. I really wanted to get a day in before the end of the season otherwise I'd be regretting it the whole winter. I'll post up how it goes and during the meanwhile I've got a few question I'll send over in a PM.
Dammit, I'm torn again. I really wanted to do Mid-Ohio this year and hit up two AMA tracks in one year. Putnam, Mid-Ohio, Putnam, Mid-Ohio.
 

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OSUrid3r said:
You got it! September 24th. Can't wait! It'll probably rain... hard. It'll be my first track day and the initial startup costs are just astronomical. I really wanted to get a day in before the end of the season otherwise I'd be regretting it the whole winter. I'll post up how it goes and during the meanwhile I've got a few question I'll send over in a PM.
I'd appreciate some kind of idea how STT compares to the CSS methodology I wrote up, if you opt for them.

Ooo, sorry :topic: :D
 

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kanwisch said:
I'd appreciate some kind of idea how STT compares to the CSS methodology I wrote up, if you opt for them.

Ooo, sorry :topic: :D
There is a recap of my expeience with STT's Midwest region. First of all you get divided into groups by skill level at the beginning of the day. How did they decide the groups at the start of the day? They asked "Who's fast? Who's not as fast as them? Who's not as fast as them?" and so forth. Once you were in your group there was no passing.

Once you get on the track your goup lines up behind your CR and you follow them for every session. The CR's never gave you any personal feedback becuase you were behind them the whole time. There is no way a CR can give you feedback unless they are behind you watching you.

We didnt get up to speed till after lunch. And once we got up to speed I never got to get comfortable riding my own ride...becuase I wasn't! I was riding whatever ride the CR decided for our group. It was actually one of most fustrating experience I've ever had on the track. That was my second track day ever, now if I were to ride with them I'd sign up for their Intermediate group. I hear its much better than the Novice group.
 
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