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Suzuki gs500f


Overall Length: 2 075 mm (81.7 in)
Overall Width: 800 mm (31.5 in)
Overall Height: 1 045 mm (41.1 in)
Seat Height: 790 m (31.1 in)
Wheelbase: 1 410 mm (55.5 in)
Ground Clearance: 155 mm (6.1 in)
Dry Weight: 180 kg (396 lbs)
Engine type: Air-cooled 487 cc inline-2, DOHC, 4 valves. 47 hp (34,3 kW)/ 9.200 rpm, 40 Nm/ 7.400 rpm.



vs.


Kawasaki Ninja 500r




both 500cc bikes




Displacement: 498.00 ccm (30.39 cubic inches)
Engine type: Twin
Stroke: 4
Compression: 10.8:1
Bore x stroke: 74.0 x 58.0 mm (2.9 x 2.3 inches)
Fuel system: Carburettor. Keihin CVK34 x 2
Valves per cylinder: 4
Fuel control: DOHC
Ignition: TCBI with digital advance
Starter: Electric
Cooling system: Liquid
Gearbox: 6-speed
Transmission type
final drive: Chain
Dry weight: 176.0 kg (388.0 pounds)
Seat height: 775 mm (30.5 inches) If adjustable, lowest setting.
Overall height: 1,161 mm (45.7 inches)
Overall width: 701 mm (27.6 inches)
Ground clearance: 119 mm (4.7 inches)
Wheelbase: 1,435 mm (56.5 inches)
Fuel capacity: 18.16 litres (4.80 gallons







It's a coincidence that both pics I found of hte bikes were blue.
 

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It'll be my first bike, taking the course next weekend, I'm 5'9 160 lbs, 20 yrs old. No previous bike experience.



Advice?


also, how do these bikes compare to a Honda cb500s?
 

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My first bike was an EX500 which is now the 500R Ninja. I was 18 and bought her right off the showroom lot. It was a great bike. Very stable and still quick enough to scare you. Also very reliable. Never had any problems. I would recommend this bike to anyone.

Oh, good luck on you future purchase and safe riding.
 

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Bikes look to be about equal. To me it would be a matter of looks.
 

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Also, I've been kinda scared of the SV650S, it being 600cc+ and all, but people keep saying it's not a bad bike for a starter bike.

How does it match up?

TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS:
Overall Length: 2,085 mm
Overall Width: 730 mm
Overall Height: 1,170 mm
Wheelbase: 1,430 mm
Ground Clearance: 155 mm
Seat Height: 800 mm
Dry Mass: 169 kg
Fuel Capacity: 17 litres

ENGINE:
Engine Type: 90-degree 4-stroke V-twin, DOHC, liquid cooled, electronic fuel injected, 4 valves per cylinder
Bore x Stroke: 81.0 x 62.6.mm
Max Power: 72 PS (53.0 Kw) @ 9,000 rpm
Max Torque: 64 Nm @ 7,200 rpm
Piston Displacement: 645 cc
Compression Ratio: 11.5 : 1
Carburettor: Fuel injection 39 mm
Lubrication: Wet sump

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:
Ignition Type: Digital Electronic (Transistorised)
Starter System: Electric

TRANSMISSION:
Clutch: Wet multi plate
Transmission: 6-speed
Drive System: Chain

CHASSIS:
Front Suspension: Conventional 41 mm telescopic, spring preload adjustable
Rear Suspension: Link type, sping preload adjustable
Rake/Trail: 25 degrees / 100 mm
Front Brake: Dual-piston calipers, 290 mm dual discs
Rear Brake: Single-piston caliper, 220 mm disc
Front Tyre: 120/60 ZR17
Rear Tyre: 160/60 ZR17


 

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I was in your shoes about 2 months ago...not much experience on a bike and trying to figure out what to get. However, I was looking at 600cc bikes (R6, Gix 600, etc). After looking through many forums and getting the advice of the older guys I decided to go with the Suzuki SV650S. My training at MSF more than prepared me for this bike, I jumped right on and took off. As you may read the SV is a good starter bike, but also has good power you can grow with (it will do the 1/4 mile in 11.5-11.7 seconds --- that is Ferrari 430, Ford GT, territory). It runs pretty good up to 110-115 mph, but then it struggles. I would go for the SV over your other choices.
 

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I started on a sv650 it was a great bike and not to overbarring if you mess up. It has a much wider powerband and it makes power at alot lower RPM than the gs 500 an ninja 500 so you don't have to wind the snot out of it my 03 reved 11,000 rpm but i usualy short shifted it at around 9,000 but you can ride around below 5000 and still have power. I rode mine for 2 year and put 7,500 miles on it before a car hit me or I would still be riding it. When my gf gets a bike this is what she is going to start on. I didn't have any problems at all with the bike i bought it brand new in 03 if you are going to buy new I'de get the sv650 so you don't outgrow it too soon.
 

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I could not find a used one and the ones I did find were going for almost $5,000 and were 2 years old. I was able to get an 05 SV650S for $5,800 OTD. I liked having a bike nobody ragged on and a warranty, however, the fear of dropping it is always on my mind. So far so good though.
 

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without much of a body and the sv being naked and all, would it damage the engine or other important parts when it gets dropped? or what?
frame sliders worth picking up?
there's a used 01 for $4000, or a new 05 for 5800, which would be a better idea?
 

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(it will do the 1/4 mile in 11.5-11.7 seconds --- that is Ferrari 430, Ford GT, territory). It runs pretty good up to 110-115 mph, but then it struggles. I would go for the SV over your other choices.
actually add whole 1 sec to that figure, and you'll see running mid 12s on stock with best shift points.

on to the question, being naked and all is another plus for SV, when you drop the bike, there's no fairing to damage, so you save money that way. and you'll drop it while learning, dropping bike is easy. if it does get dropped, you'll more or less scratch the engine cover or clutch cover, and break a shifter or brake pedal or indicator lights, or bend handlebars, etc (and that also happens to bikes WITH fairings). best protection are frame sliders, they prevent some of the breakage, not all.

getting a used bike is always best for first bike, but I think that guy is asking way too much for that 01, depends on mileage though.
 

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Yep, frame sliders are always worth the money. I'll agree with Z on just about everything else. It sounds like that '01 is worth about 3k.
 

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http://sportrider.com/bikes/146_perf_nums/

The link you posted, the figures seem exaggerated, there's no way twins with such limited displacement are turning those numbers on stock.

I mean 0-60 in 3 secs and 11 sec 1/4 mile? no way, the SV1000 has 50 more claimed horsepower than 650, but it makes nearly the same 1/4 mile times as a 600 CC. These kinda figures belong to peakier bikes or bikes with bigger displacement. I mean SV is fast, but not this fast on stock machinery, if it was, it wouldn't be so conducive for beginner to learn on.

yes, with the SV I get a good off the line start, but it doesn't explode when it nears 7K rpm as most inline bikes do, the progression of power seems flat as ever, and then at around 9.5K, the power ends, leaving you with 1K extra of nothing.

I've been to SV rider, and those were estimated figures.
 
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