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Why do the european versions of the F4 come with centerstands, and my U.S. version doesn't. This has forced me to look for a swingarm stand. Which one is worth buying? Bulldog? LP? Twobros?

Or, can I purchase a stock centerstand and mount it to my F4? I would assume that the grab handle would be needed also, or you could use the passenger pegs to lift up on?

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buy a pitbull stand (personnal favorite). once you get used to using swingarm stands (and then a good front lift stand), the idea of adding weight to and losing clearance on your bike for the small gains of a center stand will seem pretty weak.

woodcraft, pitbull, hindle, muzzy and a few others are good. spool stands are best, but you'll probably have problems putting spools on the f4, i could be wrong.

avoid those white w/ rubber paddles lp universal stands. they;re cheap and everyone buys them and then realizes the first time they use a real stand they messed up.

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From personal experience and many recomendations, the pit bull stands are very good and reasonable on the price.

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Taner, I don't have any first hand experience with swingarm stands, but I know two riders, one with a '98 900RR, and one with '99 900RR, that both managed to drop their bikes off of the LP stands. I realize that there was probably user error involved (at least in the case of the '98), but that's enough info for me to steer clear of that stand.

As for the grab handle issue - I have a centerstand on my VFR, and when the grab handles are removed (when the solo cowl is on), I just place my right hand on the seat lock/left peg bracket. Furthemore, I do not have to lift at all; just left hand on left grip and right hand on bracket, both for stability, and with my right foot pressing on the stand, it pops right up. (Yeah, I'm 6'1", 205lbs, but the bike is over 500 lbs wet.)

I am not promoting the idea of adding a centerstand to your bike, just some mindless info. If I were going to keep my bike for a long time, I'd remove my centerstand for the aforementioned reasons, and get swingarm stand.



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How much did you guys pay for the pit bull swingarm stand? Where did you get them from? Do they have a website?

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Pitbull all the way! I am one of those poor unfortunate souls that decided to save a buck and buy the LP. The thing isn't six months old and its already beginning to self destruct. LP=crap!

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lp has a high-level stand that's not bad at all, but i think it's pretty pricey. geoff, does the f4 have the mounts for spools or do you have to drill them in or weld them on?

my fzr (88 swingarm) doesn't have the mounts for the spools and it sucks.

i use a hindle unversal stand on it. it has no wheels so it's easy has hell to use in gravel, dirt, rocks, grass. i got mine from street-n-comp.com during a race weekend. my friend got it for me on his racer discount, it was keep as crap. i've had almost four years now.

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I have the LP Racing swing arm stand that I got for $65 on http://www.mawonline.com
It was cheap, it holds the bike very firm, and I'm very happy with it.
If you drop your bike off a swing arm stand you are doing something very wrong. I don't see any reason to pay over $100 for a Pit Bull stand unless you're part of Nicky Hayden's pit crew and actually need something that heavy duty.

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actually if you have a bike with a rear brake caliper on the bottom of the swingarm instead of on the top of the swingarm, those lp sucks. they are also much more difficult to use because the wheels don't roll as easy.

the lp stands are a lot like the ninja 250. it's a great bike and you'll never need anything more until you ride something better.

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After some thinking, I have decided to get a centerstand. I will also get a swingarm stand for the paddock if I decide to go racing.

The Europeans don't seem to have problems with it, so I think I won't either.

My local shop can't get one. My parts guy even called the Parts Manager at American Honda and he said to find a dealer in europe who can get me one.

Anyone know of a website or e-mail address for a Honda dealer overseas? Anyone have experiance with doing this sort of thing, or have comments on putting a centerstand on an F4?

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I've both the LP and Pit Bull univ. stands. The PB feels and looks higher quality, but the LP works just fine. I use the PB for home, and I'll prolly use the LP exclusively as a track stand. I don't see how one can hold the LP stand responsible for dropping a bike. It'd have to be spastic user syndrome (SUS)- no doubt.

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