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Has anyone ever taken one of these? I was thinking about enrolling in an uncoming one, and obviously it can't hurt but I'm a poor man and would really need it to be useful to justify spending the money. I'd love to hear some comments on the course.
 

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Covers a lot of the stuff in the beginner course except the stuff you would have learned in a couple thousand miles experience like: what switches/levers/buttons do what, how to use a clutch, how to shift, etc.

Still covers street strategy, some riding techniques like braking properly, counter steering drills etc.

If you took the basic course it's all rehash. Still a good idea to freshen up a bit. I took it after a couple years of riding and having taken the beginner course but it was free in Illinois. Should get a discount on insurance from it.

How much is it up there??
 

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It's a good one to take every 2 or 3 years. They will point out bad habits you are picking up. Good refresher. It can be a grueling day, though...especially if it's hot outside. I'm big on classes, though. I like to take a track course once a year, too.
 

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It's 100 bucks for a 9 hour course, which I know is pretty inexpensive as far as courses go. But for my poor college student butt thats a good 12-14 hours of work at my boring job to pay for it. I also didn't notice any mention of insurance discounts in the desciption for the experienced course(which was pretty vague), only the beginner course mentioned that.
 

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Check with YOUR insurance co. as it is they who decide if they give a break. If they give one for the beginner course they almost always do for the experienced course too. Last I checked the in co. recognised a course for 2 or 3 years for the discount so if it's been that long the experienced course is the fastest and cheapest way to get back on the discount. But again, check with your company.

Did you ever take the beginner course?? When??
 

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expreienced rider course

Ayear ago last march I took the Fla. written test passed it and got my temp.permit. no passengers. daytime only. good for 3 mo.then i got my bike and signed up for msf course.the instructor urged me to take the experienced rider course cause I had close to 1000 mi. and would have more by the time of the test day.The beginner crs.was 150$ Experienced rider crs was 70$ you do the math. plus I wanted to ride mine.. not theirs!very good course .
 

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Experienced Rider Course

I am currently an MSF instructor. The reason I became such is because I took the ERC in 1987. I had ridden for 10 years, was the Road Captain for our motorcycle club, thought I knew it all, etc. I succumbed to peer pressure and took the class. It really opened my eyes to what control I could really get on my bike. The benefit of the class is not so much learning new things but practising things you would not otherwise practise. For instance, maximum braking in a curve. Do you really know and use the separation of first straightening the bike before you start any braking? Will you discipline yourself to turn your head and acquire a target first that will enable you to more effectively straighten the bike? Most of us will not hone our skills seriously on our own and can't catch our lack of technique by ourselves. The ERC gives you a safe place to work under a watchful eye. Please don't wait to polish your crash avoidance skills until you are avoiding a crash! That is a very bad time to take it up! TAKE THE CLASS! It's a small price to pay for the priceless results. :D
 

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if ya can, take it

I've been through both classes and the ERC a couple of times. Luckily I'm in the Air Force and MSF courses are a requirement for us to ride so the government picks up the tab everytime I go. My insurance company did knock off 10% for the ERC. The ERC is half day class (dull) and half day riding. It's always good to practice braking, cornering, swerving, etc. If you can swing the cash, I'd say go take it.
 

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The ERC is being revamped!:) And it needed it. The classroom portion was overly long and could be boring. The new ERC has no classroom :D , just range exercises with short talks preceding the drills. It has been pilot tested at some sites (one in middle Tennessee) and MSF is going to roll it out at the Honda Hoot. We, Knoxville Rider Education Program will get to attend the first offering and be updated. I've heard that afterwards we will assist the MSF guru in teaching the classes at the Hoot. Come join us if you're planning on being there. I don't know details about cost, etc. but we charged $50 when we did them last year.
 

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I took the ERC back in December. It was mostly refresher course. Kicking off bad habits learned after a few years of riding. Unlearning some stuff learned from beginners course (according to the instructor) My buddies and I got a discounted price because we took over the class ($70/each). Good course to take.
 

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I agree with everyone who has posted. I took the ERC after being away from motorcycling for a little over a year. I also had a different bike that I wanted to learn more about. Most insurance companies do give discounts for taking the course, but above all, it's just a good thing to do. I'm sure everyone knows how to ride, but this will give you little tips and tricks that are really helpful. Plus, it gives you a chance to meet up with other riders. Our instructor encouraged us to trade secrets and really BS a lot. I highly recommend taking it and I will probably take it again in a couple of years after I become an "expert" at riding. LOL
 
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