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the tires I have look pretty worn because of the previous owner. It has the Pirelli Dragon Supercorsa on it right now which i've heard is for track use mainly. I just realized that the thread on my tires are showing an i MUST replace them. For a person who doesn't hit the twisties (will in the future) and rides to commute, will I notice a difference If I slap on some Pilot powers? Or will I only notice the grip difference if leaning like you pros.Also, Because I'm scared as shit to lean and and im a pretty new rider, will putting on new tires be a good upgrade? Remember that I've been riding on some worn out almost bald supercorsa

Edit: I've read in a few threads that changing to a better tire improved there confidence because they can feel better grip, but i dont know if that applied to the guys who've been riding for years or the new guys
 

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there are so many threads on this dude. get the pilot powers or the dunlop 208's which are now the qualifiers now.
 

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Dunlop D220s. I'm running them on both my bikes now, and have no complaints. I've had friends say that they have gotten 7 to 8 thousand miles out of them, which is over double what I get from the D208s.
 

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What is the make & model of the bike. Like is it a modern late 90s to 2000 sportbike or is it a regular riding position bike?

So far from the tyres being pointed out then probably Bridgestone BT-020 would be a good buy as the new Yamaha FZ6 bikes are fitted with them & all seem pleased with them. I go a bit sticker with Bridgestone BT-012 on the front & BT-014 on the rear of the Yamaha YZF-600r, Honda 929, & Honda 954 bikes.
 

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Thanks for al the replies so far, but I'm really not concerned as to which tire I should get, I sort of had my mind on the Pilot powers. Really my main question was, will changing my tires affect the bikes performance and handling GREATLY even if I dont lean hard? Like I said I am really using my bike to commute and possibly in the future hit the twisties and my current tires are almost bald from the previous owner. So when I switch tires and ride like I normaly do will I notice a drastic change in grip and such?
 

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I'm a Metzler fan myself. Ive tried the D208's and don't like them much. But I love my Metzler M1's I'm planning on getting some Metzler M3's next. They are good on long rides and also great in the twisties. The somtimes cost a bit more depending on were you live, but I think they are well worth it.

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Hi Liqwed-

Another vote for Metzeler tires from me, too. Durable, supple, predicatable, and the hands-down winner for wet performance. In my riding life I've been on Bridgestone, Dunlop, and Metzeler at various times...and my clear preference has been cemented at this point!

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Well I'll chime in on this since I have some pretty good first hand knowledge.


I ran pilot powers on my R6, and I do a LOT of commuting on it. Like almost 1k miles a week.


The pilot powers are great tires in my opinion, but they are a bit soft for constant use, so I took them off and I only use them when I'm going to go out carving or doing serious riding. You are definitely correct that they will increase performance.

However, I found that the diablo's worked great for me as a replacement tire, they still have great performance, although they do take a little longer to warm up, but they are a much longer lasting tire than the powers if you are doing a lot of commuting. Basically I was eating up performance tires running around in straight lines on the freeway to and back from work, and thats not very cost effective.

The diablos still give me good cornering, I run on them great once they are warmed up and I dont notice much loss in the twisties, and I'm saving myself hella bucks. I was going thru 2 or more sets of powers a season, and only 1 of the diablos. So now I keep both around , the powers for special occasions, and the diablos for every day riding.
 

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Liqwed said:
Thanks for al the replies so far, but I'm really not concerned as to which tire I should get, I sort of had my mind on the Pilot powers. Really my main question was, will changing my tires affect the bikes performance and handling GREATLY even if I dont lean hard? Like I said I am really using my bike to commute and possibly in the future hit the twisties and my current tires are almost bald from the previous owner. So when I switch tires and ride like I normaly do will I notice a drastic change in grip and such?

The answer is no....unless you've already developed your skills to the point where you are sliding around on your Michelins, Pirellis, or whatever.

I recently bought an Avon Azaro rear tire. There was no difference in handling or feel, I've ridden it to the edges without any traction issues, and they're on their way to lasting almost twice as long as any of the other tires mentioned in the posts above................

Sure those other tires will grip better, but only at a point which more than 90% of street riders never reach
 

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Look at it this way.
Supercorsa= 2,000 miles (maybe) lots of grip, expansive to replace, quick warmup.
Diablo/208 etc=fast road tire, some track. 3000 miles, grip suffers at the track, fine in twisties, 2 laps to warm up, much cheaper to replace
Sport touring tire (my recommendation)=8000 miles, about the price of the fast road tires, not enough grip for the track (but plenty for commuting very quickly) slow to warm up.

Based on what you are saying, I would go with a sport touring tire. The main difference you will notice is the less agressive profile, which requires more effort to lean the bike. The last a long time, pretty good for twisties, and I've seen one guy run some fast laps at the track on avon t46's.
 

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yeah dude dont get bullheaded about it.



If you are honestly doing a ton of commuting, the 5 percent increase in performance you MIGHT get out of the powers is not going to compensate you for how much quicker you are going to rip through those tires.


The diablo strada ems tire works wonders for me, swear to god I notice practically no difference than the pilot powers except when I'm running right on the edge of my riding skills.


So unless your ripping off knee dragging turns every day on the way to work, which I really doubt, at least not every day or even every other day, go with a tire like the strada to save yourself some bucks.


Its not just dollars you will save too, it may be your ride. Consider this, you buy the powers, and then run a bit short of cash and start running them past where you really should. When those tires start cupping/scalloping or going bald, your either going to HAVE to replace them, sit the bike till you have loot, or run with them in an unsafe condition.


Is your 5 percent increase in performance really worth that? I mean seriously, no one here is talking factory racing, your talking performance choices in commuting.

I've worn through 5 sets of powers and two sets of stradas, I like them both, but I know which tire is better for which situation.


I also know what it's like to get an idea in your head and want it. What you want is exactly the reason I bought my powers, for great performance, so I could rip it up. After the second set is when I realized, ya know, its really not all that noticable and its killing my pocketbook.


If you absolutely MUST get them, do it like I did, and get two sets.
Thats the best way to go if you can do it.





Also side note, since you said in your post that you mainly use the bike for commuting and you will be LATER ON starting to do some twisties and such. Well if thats the case dude, to be brutally honest, it would be retarded to get a super performance tire, and do it that way. With all the commuting, by the time you decide to start really pushing the bikes limits, and yours, you will ALREADY have burned big ole chicken strips into your tires, and speaking as a serious commuter, you will have flattened out the rear Powers pretty well. Then when you start hitting your own personal lean limits, your performance tire with that 5 percent boost in ability will already be down to like 80 percent effectiveness, compared to a sport touring tire like that strada ems I use, which will still be at like 90 plus percent effectiveness.



These arent opinions, these are factual numbers. Theres plenty of stats to back it up if you check the manufacturers stats on all the tires.

I'm still not saying the Powers arent great, but they arent built for long term commuting riding. I can take some pics of my old powers that I used for commuting, and you can see the flattening and chicken strips I put on them by using them for so many straight shots to work and the gym, grocery store, etc.
 
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