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can somebody enlighten me about the experiences of prepping a dirtbike, two stroke and four stroke for street tires. rims, lights etc, for the canyon runner, and the occasional open track day..

and how it would compare to regular street bikes at the track..

oh and how much money you put into making a super motard, bike costs, and all the after market stuff.. thanks
 

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I build my 426
I got the street legal kit from Electrex $400
http://www.electrexusa.com/dakar/default.html
I had to get a WR staor to run the lights $400
I also got the wheels from the $1000 Whitebro rims on talon hubs

The bike is a blast to ride and as much fun on the track as my R6, if you are on a short tight track
I went to my first race this weekend. Was learning how to back it into corners. It was going well until I highsided in the last practice and didn't have parts to fix my bike
 

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sorry to hear about the high side.. learning curves... hope your aroight,, thanks for the good info, i think im onmy way to building a motard.. can you post some pics of your bike? thanks..
 

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I'm thinking of doing the same thing. I'm leaning towards a XR650L, it already being street legal, that would presumabley lessen the conversion cost. I've seen a number of these on the web, but no real details.
So I'd need- wheels, rims, hubs, tires? larger front disc?
After replacing those, what absolutely needs to be done- do the front forks need to be cut down, or reworked? anything to the rear shock? sprockets and chain?

Or would it be good to go after just switching out the knobbies for some 17" rims and sticky rubber?
 

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It all depends on how quickly you want to spend money. The XR650L is a good 'motard if you're primarily focusing on street riding it. A set of 17" wheels/tires and you have a perfectly functional supermotard. You may want a new rear sprocket to compensate for the difference in wheel sizes, though.

Big brakes are good to have, but not immediately necessary. I have not lowered the suspension on my CR, and don't think I will bother...just some playing with springs and oil to firm things up a bit is all that's needed.
 

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inanima said:
excellent- thanks for the info.
it would be a street ride only for me, I think.
what else would be needed if you plan on doing some track days? and why would you lower a SM? dont you want the travel?
 

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All I have done is the wheels. I was thinking of lowering the bike but I am already dragging pegs. I firmed up the suspension alittle

I wouldn't spend the money on the larger brakes yet. At a full size track I felt I needed more pwer but the stock brakes still worked well. At a small track, the stock worked great
 

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hey nominal..

did you do anything to the forks? its seems that some of the super motards i see have huge front forks.. if i built this, i would do the wheels and the brakes at the same time. im thinkin of the XR650L also.. unless its not too hard to register a XR650R, but i dont know the difference between the two. and how does the power compare between a 650/400 fourstroke and a 250cc 2 stroke.
 

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XR600R Super Moto

Interesting topic. I actually have one. If anyone is interested in streeting a XR most already have a lighting coil built in. Honda did this for the desert racers. You can buy a heavier unit for better lights and for that matter a complete "Baja" kit from XR's Only.
You need to check with your state as to the requirements for streeting an off road bike. I hear soime can be tough but I know some are very easy. I know where I live all thats required is a safety exam by the MOT at a cost of $75.
If anyone is interested here is an ad for my motard thats for sale or trade. Email me if interested as I am rarely on this board.
Deal fell through so bike is available once again.

Honda XR600R Super Motard

Bike is a US bike currently in Canada. Will come with a Canadian (Ontario) title. $3000 USD or trade

This bike is completely rebuilt with nothing but the best of the best. Dyno at 47.04 at the rear wheel. With 36.79 ft/lbs of torque. All this in a machine that weighs just 260 lbs. Do the math and you will see that this thing will move. I just completely stripped it to the frame which has a fresh coat of black. This machine is an updated version of the venerable XR500. It’s a 4 valve head with magnesium cases and a no oil sump. The oil is stored in the front frame downtube. It’s a very versatile machine. You can road race it, ice race it, hare scrambles, trail rides, motard or whatever you like. Just finished the bike and the girlfriend is driving me nuts to sell it (It scares the crap out of her). I will sell it outright or trade for a 600+ cc race/street/track bike. I would also look at a 80-100cc four stroke trail bike.
I have all receipts that have been put into the bike in the last year and a half. They total $4626.55 USD (not including the wheels they are worth another $1200 USD). I also have the dyno sheets to prove output. It really is a unique machine and is a blast to ride, even if it is a bitch to start (typical big single). This bike with thump many much newer machines and wheelie in four gears J
Here are some pics.


http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b173/kneedragger88/Motard/MotardFrt.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b173/kneedragger88/Motard/MotardRear.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b173/kneedragger88/Motard/MotardRightClose.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b173/kneedragger88/Motard/MotardRight.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b173/kneedragger88/Motard/Forks.jpg

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Motor
· XR’s Only Hot Cams Intake 8.8mm lift 258 duration Exhaust 8.8mm lift 258 duration
· Stainless Intake Valves
· New valve seals
· Kibblewhite heavy valve spring kit
· JE 98mm hi-comp piston
· Cylinder head ported and polished
· New Honda cam chain
· New Cam Collars
· New rocker arms
· New Oil Pump
· Carrillo rod
· APE crank new bearings installed repressed and trued
· Fresh bottom end bearings and seals
· New bearing and pin kit
· FMF Powerbomb header with Ti Can
· Hot box CDI
· K&N Pod Filters

Transmission
· 2 new High Output Gears 25 & 17 tooth
· High output Gear Kit (C2 & C5)
· New Shift Forks
· Fresh gaskets and seals
· Barnett Clutch
Chassis
· SUN Alloy Supermoto wheels with HD spokes 17”
· Rear wheel laced to stock rear brake
· EBC Supermoto Pro-Lite front rotor
· Supermoto fenders
· Pirelli Super Corsa tires 120 front and 160 rear
· Rear shock rebuilt and sprung by GMD Computrack, Pompono Beach, FL
· Front suspension rebuilt with fresh seals (needs heavier springs for roadracing)
· Unbreakable clutch lever kit
· Regina Gold Chain
· XR’s Only non slip seat cover
· MSR Chain Roller
· EBC Pads and Shoes
· New Alloy Bars
Spares

· Gaskets including head
· Complete bottom end
· Some gearing
· Levers
· Cables
· Takeoffs
· Most of a top end
· Brand new cam
 
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