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Any Texas riders know how much it cost's and what they all do to you (in Texas) if you get caught by the cops without a motorcycle license? I have it insured AND registered. It's just that Texas makes it such a hassle to get your license. I have allready passed the written part. But you have to come back at 0630 in the morning to make an appointment to THEN come back again to take the riding test. I work nights and two young kids, what a fricken hassle. OH and did I mention that you have to provide the chase car and a licensed driver to drive the chase car. Give me a freaking break!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Its really not as big of a deal as you are making it out to be. The whole thing takes about 30 minutes if I remember right, it was a long time ago.

Or you could just take a MSF course to get your license and be done with it.

As far as getting caught its just a ticket and it depends on where you get caught on the price. But they can and probably will impound your bike which is never any fun.

I would do yourself a favor and get the endorsement. A lot of time cops pull over sportbikes knowing that the person probably wont have a MC endorsement.

The little bit of pain in taking the test, and like I said it is no big deal, is small compared to the hassles of getting caught without it.
 

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Hi Winfield-

Things are tough all over! Just cowboy-up and do what needs to be done. Texas doesn't sound any different from most other states on the topic of motorcycle licensing.

Get a babysitter and take a sickday from work to secure the endorsement. What is your alternative, riding around without a valid license?

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Im prety sure that here in NY not only will they hit you with a hefty fine and impound your bike but you ability to get your liscence will be suspended for a year. And yur permit will be revoked if you had one.
 

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My advice is to take the advanced riders course. One day instead of two and you will learn something no matter how long you have been riding, in my case 20+ years counting dirt. Technically they may give you a hard time as the basic course counts for the drivers test, the advanced course does not, at least according to the DMV in Austin. Go figure the DMV logic on that one. It was worth the gamble for me to save a day and to avoid the "this is the brake lever" briefing. I took my advanced card in and was extremely polite so they took it. Try 8am midweek for the least line.
 

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Blue Jays said:
Texas doesn't sound any different from most other states on the topic of motorcycle licensing.
Actually, it does.

In NJ you only have to go to the DMV twice. Once to take the written and vision test then if you passed you schedule a date for the road test. 10 days later you can come to the DMV and take the road test, and you don't need any of that 'chase car' bullshit.. I've never even heard of that.

However I still agree with you. The requirements don't sound too hard to follow, stop being a whining bitch and just get your license..
 

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You could also pay the money and get the license through MSF, should be less than taking the rider course. It does mean you have to sacrifice possibly Sunday.
 

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Hi Unas_the_Slayer:

A rider with a regular driver's license without the motorcycle endorsement can show-up without another licensed motorcyclist (whether on another bike or in a chase car...) to take the roadtest in New Jersey? That is quite a departure from other states.

With all the absurd hoops and hurdles we have to address, I get the sensation that many states would just as soon like to see motorcycles go away...but there are too many of us who dearly enjoy the sport.

My other favorite oddball rule is when you have to go get your motorcycle inspected and states require all the reflective crap affixed to your helmet. Yeah, like I'm going to put permanent tape all over my beautiful Arai for one day out of the year! I just use a beater helmet that is COVERED in reflective stuff for that annual nonsense!

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What up, Winfield....You ever drive down the road and notice those signs that say "Don't mess with Texas?" My ex worked for a County Sheriff in Round Rock, and it seemed they had 3 sentences, no matter what the crime - 60 years, Life, and Death. If the judge had a really good weekend he might throw out a couple 40 years.....

Might not be quite that bad for you, but it will certainly be far more expensive than going on & getting your endorsement.

Could be you get pulled over, maybe on the way to work, bike gets impounded, towed, scratched up, you get a ticket, court date, impound fees, fines, and you STILL have to get the license.

Maybe something happens on the road, and you are at fault. Your insurance doesn't want to cover an unlicensed driver......


Get the paper........
 

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Hi Winfield-

BTW, count me as another vote for obtaining the license via the MSF Ridercourse if that is available in your jurisdiction. Talk about killing two birds with one stone and learning some valuable lessons at the same time!

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Blue Jays said:

A rider with a regular driver's license without the motorcycle endorsement can show-up without another licensed motorcyclist (whether on another bike or in a chase car...) to take the roadtest in New Jersey? That is quite a departure from other states.
In the Buckeye, I, having a driver's license and motorcycle permit, can show up to the DMV and take my riding test all by my lonesome. It's just a bunch of cones in a parking lot, so I don't see why I'd need a chauffer. Damn, what do the rest of you have to do?
 

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Well in NY you have to take and pass your written learners permit first. then schedule you road test. When you go to your road test you must have both your bike as well as a cage, as well as a licenced rider as well, since in order for you to legaly ride with a permit you must have a supervising rider within 1/4 mile of you. The licenced rider must also have an cage licence (a formality at this point I know) because he/she must operate the cage while the facilitator administers the test. If thats not a total pain in the ass I dont know what is.
 

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I know I've heard of that before, but was unaware it was still used so widely. Even as convenient as the test is here in OH, I am still going to take the MSF, due to the fact that I can learn something from it.
 

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In replacing my DL, as it had been removed for 'Dangerous Driving' charge I lost at court, I noted it was a NEW DL & only Class 5 which is for any car or truck up to one ton. I need the additional Class 6 to ride a m/c.

Was testing a Kwacker KT-250 Trials m/c for a m/c mag. Tossed the bike onto the trailer of my Jeep & down to the Govt joint to pass said test.
 

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Hi Smitty-

Was this situation just recently, or back in the day? I guess a trailer is another way around that pesky rule...

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