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Had a little experience about a week ago with a tailgater that was entertaining enough to share.

There are a pair of curves, 15mph posted, that are fun to take on the bike at a much greater speed. The two are separated by about 100-200'.

As I approached them this particular day there was a car ahead of me some distance so I slowed to the posted speed limit (30?) to let them get further ahead so I could have my way with the curves. Well, a silver Grand Am came up behind me and was antsy to get going so he thought it'd be fun to get really close to my rear. I was annoyed but focused on having my fun.

About 100' from the curve I sped up quite a bit and to my surprise, so did the Grand Am. I momentarily thought, "What's this guy doing?" but quickly got focused on the first curve. Getting into the right entry point and prepping my body with a left lean I whipped around the corner at something approaching 40 or 50. Weeee, what fun. I glanced in my rear view to see the Grand Am sitting sideways off the road right at the curve. I guess he decided tailgating me was more important than actually getting through the curve :laughing: :loser:

Suffice it to say I didn't stop to help and he never did show up anywhere in my rear view mirror again.
 

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Have had a few of the same & it is nice to know they spun out or have ended up in the ditch.

In all cases I knew the terrain overly well so hitting into a series of twisties & hitting them a fast but well contolled speed basically a cage drive is not prepared for it & if they try sometimes things go wrong for them.

I would always felt pretty smug, but for most of the day I would ride at a bit slower pace then usual, because that was still going in my mind & I did not want to end up pranging myself.
 

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I love idiots in cages that don't understand, or realize, that motorcycle lean and therefore can carry much more speed into a turn. Where we lean into the centrifugal force. Cars can't do that, they lean with the force and they get to go for an off road trip if they aren't careful, like the asshole attached to your ass that day.


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That's funny! That's EXACTLY what happened to me about three months ago on Highway 128 from 101 to the PCH (very winding road.) Except that the car was a Buick LeSabre, and it was driven by some old lady.

She tried to pace me though the curves, and ended up spinning off to the side in the gravel.
 

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A buddy that I ride with told me something similar happened to him a week ago, but this was a new Dodge Ram Hemi with a nice set of 20" rims, one of which was torn from the truck when it went into the ditch. That guy is probably still kicking himself.
 

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Great stuff, mate. Should have gone back, though, just to get a photo of the guy's face!!! :laughing:


I had a similar experience with a Porsche a few months ago, but it was local knowledge, not my bike's ability, that was his downfall.

Living in a rural area, some of the roads are pretty much single lane, with gravel on the sides. When cars pass, they each put one side on the gravel. As a result, most of the corners are spattered with stones.

I was pulling away from the Porsche on the straights, then slowing for the corners that I knew had stones on them. One particular corner always has lots of big stones. I slowed right down, letting him get to within 20-30', then gunned it down the hill once I was out of the turn. I looked in my mirror and saw him going sideways across the road!!!

I think he saved it, but it was the last I saw of him. ;)
 

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thats too funny dude. i got these race take off's and they dont seem to heat up the sides as well as the street tires. so unless im hitting the twisties i cant take the 1 or two curves as well as i used to.
 

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OSUrid3r said:
Hahah, cars lean the wrong way :p He should've pulled the hand brake and did a nice front-drive drift.
Oh turning wasn't the problem. He was definitely facing the right direction, just not actually on the road :)
 

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Cars can actually carry a large amount of speed into corners, the problem is the drivers (and front wheel drive). The other problem is that the driver would have had to pay around 45+k (us) for a car that would hold well enough in the turns to even have a chance at keeping with a 8-10k bike. I don't know about you but driving 45k aggressively would unnerve me a bit.

Still want the new Lexus IS F but a Daytona 675 would be so much more fun, hell I could have five of them for the price, with better MPG too even if I was riding all five at the same time.
 

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Only thing is with a GODD driver & with a car, such as a Porsche or BMW to many other makes, that is well set-up they can outdo us for for they can power slide all four wheels. if necessary, in the bends & come out darn fast on the straights.
 

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WRONG.

CDWilliams said:
I love idiots in cages that don't understand, or realize, that motorcycle lean and therefore can carry much more speed into a turn. Where we lean into the centrifugal force. Cars can't do that, they lean with the force and they get to go for an off road trip if they aren't careful, like the asshole attached to your ass that day.


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SOrry man but your are slightly incorrect about bikes being better at corners than cars even with leaning.... I will not prove it ill let someone trustable do it for me check it out.... (before you do keep in mind I like bikes just as much as everyone else)

http://www.youtube.ca/watch?v=at6VK-Yf2Pc

SORRY guys it's the cold hard truth.
 

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I would just like to point out a few things.

first I can't open the youtube link.

Second, it really depends on the car being compared. Most cars sold in the us are front engine front wheel drive and over steer horribly when they are pushed, they have week motors and economy tires.

At the highest end of the market cars will be faster around a track.

If you compare a 10k bike and a 10k car the bike will absolutely demolish the car in every respect.

When you take the comparison off the track you realize that one lane is just wide enough for a car, while the bike has plenty of room to pick a line.

So you can choose to say that cars or bikes are faster but it really doesn't matter, what matters is the car and the driver, and the conditions, and a billion other factors. It's the same with the bikes, that is why racing is an interesting sport.
 
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