The way I see it, if you don't have self control, ANY bike will kill you. Granted, not as fast on a smaller bike, but if you don't have self control or even realize how powerful motorcycles are, you'll get in deep shit fast on any bike.stanglx said:\Why because I knew my limitations and the machines limitations. Everytime someone on here screams "THE 600s or BIGGER WILL KILL YOU!!!"
Bingo, 100% IMHO.NovaHawk said:The way I see it, if you don't have self control, ANY bike will kill you. Granted, not as fast on a smaller bike, but if you don't have self control or even realize how powerful motorcycles are, you'll get in deep shit fast on any bike.
I think reading this ungrateful tripe just made me dumber, both about bikes and general politics.stanglx said:I love how everyone needs to scream... "TOO BIG OF A BIKE..et etc etc." Its called self control. Unless the power to weight ratio is way high (like the R6 or the GSXR 600) a 600 is NOT TOO BIG OF A BIKE. I would say probably the first few times I road the bike I was a little surprised by the "power" and by the breaking ability (Duh.. maybe thats just getting use to the bike?? ). But honestly it takes a lot to get the front end off the ground, and the breaks are not anyworse then a crappy old NightHawk. The ergos... 4gettabouttit they are cumfy and extremely forgiving.
So to say a YZF 600 or a F4i is too big to start out on is bullsh!t!
I am so happy that I didnt listen to the idocy of some of the people on this forum. I would have spent 3 - 4 grand on something that I would have grown out of in a few months to just have to spend more money. I think I will grow with the F4i and probably will not need to upgrade for many many years. Look I agree that a R6 or a GSXR 600 is NOT the way to go.. Power to weight is crazy.. Ergos are for racing, and breaks are very touchy...
Dont put all 600s in the same class.. I love how people say that the SV 600s is a good starter bike then the F4i.. Mean while the ergos are more radical, the bike has better touque in the lower RPMs which of course will bring the bike right up and even weighs more which for a new guy is horrible!
Most of us on here are over 18 and majority are probably over 25 or 30. We are not kids and dont treat us like one..
Most of you who say this probably think that Guns kill people.. Never thinking that its the person who pulls the trigger that kills the person.. The gun is only the tool... Same with Bikes...
The liberal mentality that we no longer take personal responsibility for our actions is so strong it is sickening. Lets just blame the tools and the machineary that we invent rather then blaming ourselves for their mis-use! And honestly just like the liberal BIG Brother banned the use of Trikes in the 90s they will surely start to regulate the use of certain types of Motorcycles for street use with this type of thinking. All because the individual didnt want to take responsibility for their actions. I had a trike and new its limitations... I rode for 5 years even after the ban and never had an issue.. Why because I knew my limitations and the machines limitations. Everytime someone on here screams "THE 600s or BIGGER WILL KILL YOU!!!" That gives a liberal politition more ammo to create laws that will rip our riding freedoms away. They did it once...
Get off your liberal thinking high horse and let each person live in liberty... Let them choose.. A recommendation is a statement that is backed up by choices NOT a statement that is willed upon another person!
If you think it's ungrateful tripe then you already are dumb. :twofingerZ_Fanatic said:I think reading this ungrateful tripe just made me dumber, both about bikes and general politics.
Anyway, it's not impossible to learn on it, a lot of my friends started on new F4i's.