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i'm driving to work when i end up behind a front loader in the middle lane of a three lane road. the left lane merges with center due to construction about 1 mile up the road. as i go to pass the loader on the right just after i start to lean the bike over he switches lanes. turn signal? nope. look over his shoulder? no. i get on the front pretty hard and go into the ever popular unexpected stoppie. the part that made me remove my seat cover with my anus is when the front starts to wobble under the heavy breaking causing the back to swim side side. probably a good foot to foot and a half. i release the brake to try and get the thing to settle down. well we come down not in a straight line and very narrowly avoided an ugly high side. when i finally get it under control i'm about 6 inches off the front loaders back tire. Question: does anyone know why the back got so loose in the air and is their anything i can do to prevent it? (steering dampner or something). whew... just glad to still be shiny side up....
 

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The shimmy could be a lot of things. Maybe a seam in the road surface? Do you lock your elbows when you brake hard? If so, try keeping some flex in your elbows. You still have to be tense enough to hold yourself up while braking but a little flex might help reduce unwanted steering inputs while braking hard. Just one idea but it's worth a try. Glad you didn't end up hitting that dumb fuk!
 

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I didn't almost die...though it did rain on me this morning...well I thought it was rain...so I'm looking up down left and right for sprinklers or something and I finally figured out the guy in front of me was cleaning his windshield...so he slides over a lane and starts screaming something unknown to me...so I gave him the finger and took off...:D

Just thought I'd share
 

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I don't want hear any whining about almost meeting the light and tunnel thing. When you loose an organ, three units of blood, and ICU for 3 weeks, then you can complain.
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Actually I have come close several times just like that. If you look back you will see that the loader is not really at fault here. You should not have tried to pass on the right to begin with and not in a construction zone. You have to keep in mind that all cages are out to kill us. If you always keep that thought in mind you will be more cautious on the road.

I'm not trying to be hard on you, I am just trying to help you realize the facts of riding a bike on public roads.
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The shimmy could be a lot of things. Maybe a seam in the road surface? Do you lock your elbows when you brake hard? If so, try keeping some flex in your elbows. You still have to be tense enough to hold yourself up while braking but a little flex might help reduce unwanted steering inputs while braking hard. Just one idea but it's worth a try. Glad you didn't end up hitting that dumb fuk!
A steering dampner will take care of all of this. ;) :rolleyes:
 

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VYPIR said:

A steering dampner will take care of all of this. ;) :rolleyes:
Hmm, how do I say this without being an ass? First a minor technicality; it's damper not dampner, a garden hose is a dampner. I know, splitting hairs but it's a pet peeve. I agree that a damper will help, but if the problem is unintentional steering input it won't stop that. There are some bikes that really need a steering damper. But I think steering dampers are used a lot to try to bandaid or cover up poor technique. That is not meant to be condescending to you Nappyboy because I need to work on my own riding quite a bit myself. It's just my opinion that we should work on technique before bolting things on to cover it up.
 
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Birdman said:

Hmm, how do I say this without being an ass? First a minor technicality; it's damper not dampner, a garden hose is a dampner. I know, splitting hairs but it's a pet peeve.
I won't worry about not being an ass. Techincally, you are wrong. A garden hose is not a dampner (there's no such word); it's a dampener. And a steering damper can also be correctly called a dampener. There, Mr. Smarty Pants. :D
 

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I almost did. I was trying to go to the DMV to get my endorsement....finally... and there was this wierd intersection right b4 the street with the DMV on it. It was very complex and somehow I ended up on what I thought was the offramp for the interstate, however, it was the onramp. So I was waiting to pull out and an 18 wheeler just starts turning into me. My reaction was something like "HOLY --IT!" at which point I gassed it to the right and escaped. But I mean sheez he didn't honk or anyhting just turned straight at me. It was only after I was safe that I realized how I came to be on the onramp facing the wrong way. Sure it may be embarassing to be honked at for doing something stupid, but I would prefer that to just running me over.
 

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Pete said:


I won't worry about not being an ass. Techincally, you are wrong. A garden hose is not a dampner (there's no such word); it's a dampener. And a steering damper can also be correctly called a dampener. There, Mr. Smarty Pants. :D
Yeah, Birdman. Listen to Mr. Webster. He knows everything.
 

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oh and I use all kinds of gestures more on my bike. I flip poeple off more often. I give the thumbs up to cool cars/bikes. I wave to other riders. I wave to hot chicks.

The only thing I do in my car is wave to other jeep owners
 

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Pete said:

A garden hose is not a dampner (there's no such word); it's a dampener
I know, but I thought it would be more poignant to use his spelling.

. And a steering damper can also be correctly called a dampener. There, Mr. Smarty Pants. :D
Hmm, I guess I'll just have to take your word on that one. My apologies to Mr. Vypir......but you still spelled it wrong. :D:)
 

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I think I know the area where your talking about

Is it on Coors and Paseo Del Norte?

Here is a lillte saftey tip from me to you: Always try to run at the front of the pack or at the back, never stay in the middle. Being in the middle will leave you boxed in and helpless :(
Also remember that if you can't see the car driver in there side mirriors then they can't see you either.
 

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sigh

anyone else wanna take pot shots at my spelling? moving on then, i wasn't in a construction zone yet but quickly approaching it.( it's on lomas) and yes i was speeding (is their any other way to ride?) i've been up on the front wheel before on purpose but never had the ass flutter like that before. i would like to stay away from dampers (is everyone happy now) if possible since it's "just a six". i like the bike because it's so "flickable" and i feel a damper would kill that. i've just crossed the 4000 mile mark, is it possible it's a head bearing problem? i read somewhere today that the zx-6r is prone to shaking under heavy breaking. can any of my kawa brothers and sisters vouch for that?
btw i'm not always this touchy , just misdirecting my anger at you guys, thx.
....stupid finance....... :rolleyes:
 

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RUFFRYDA said:
YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO USE BOTH BREAKS. ESPECIALLY WHEN BREAKING IN AN EMERGENCY. THAT SHOULD KEEP YOU FROM DOING A STOPPIE. I LEARNED THAT IN A MS COURSE.
YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO HIT THE CAPS LOCK KEY BEFORE YOU POST.

That being said, I also think that is a bunch of crap. Yes, you are supposed to use both brakes (I guess......I never do) according to the book.....but have you ever slammed on the brakes and then applied your rear brake? See how fast that ass end slides around on ya. I have just wieghted the front end of my bike, not even braking really hard yet, and touch the back brake only to have the rear start to slide side to side. Try it. It's fun. Not only that, but how in the hell is applying the back brake supposed to keep the tire on the ground if you are already putting enough force on the fron to lift it anyway? Nothing is going to stop it except letting off of the front a little.

Nappyboy, sounds like you did a good job of not freaking out and controlling your bike after it did something that you didn't expect. I say good job. Rather or not you were regarding traffic laws is hard to say since I wasn't there. Way to keep the rubber side down.

bRad

Sorry to be critical, and if I am wrong, then someone correct me please.
 

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Birdman said:


I know, but I thought it would be more poignant to use his spelling.



Hmm, I guess I'll just have to take your word on that one. My apologies to Mr. Vypir......but you still spelled it wrong. :D:)
I'm sorry I spelled it wrong. I was focused more on my technical and science classes in school and not real focused on English.
I relied too much on auto spellers fo tooo long. I cannut spell an e more. I will try harder. I just want to make my points and give advice. I am not composing a lexicon (dictionary) :D
 
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