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It seems we have a little situation here in Cincinnati.
A small matter of some rioting going on. :rolleyes:

I just heard they have declared a state of emergency and everyone must be off the streets by 8pm. I live outside the city (barely), so I'm not affected. However, the city limits are only a half mile away.

You can read the story here: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001-04-12-cincy.htm#more

The rioting started in downtown Monday, which is about 10 miles from my house. This morning as I'm leaving for work, I hear that it has spread to outlying neighborhoods. One of those neighborhoods is .5 miles away, so I took a detour and drove through it (probably not the best idea). The streets were empty, but there was plenty of evidence of the previous nights troubles. A lot of broken store windows.

I'm just hoping the rioters don't decide to come over to my town tonight since they can stay out later that way.
This could be an interesting night.
 

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This seems to be the SOP for African Americans in the inner cities. White cop shoots a Black suspect, it's rioting time!!!

Honestly, if a person has time to riot, they're either a loser, or an unemployed bum, or both to begin with.
 

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This seems to be the SOP for African Americans in the inner cities. White cop shoots a Black suspect, it's rioting time!!!

Honestly, if a person has time to riot, they're either a loser, or an unemployed bum, or both to begin with.
Yeah, but you can get some really cool stuff for free once the looting starts.

My sis lives in Cincinnati, in fact I'm at her house right now. I haven't seen any problems in her neck of the woods (College Hill, if you care). We went to eat tonight and nobody seemed too concerned.

From what I've gathered, there have been several shootings of unarmed black crime suspects lately. Someone tell me if that info is wrong. There are way too many dynamics involved with these kind of race relations to just say, "Inner city African-Americans do this stuff all the time and they're all bums or losers, etc..." Very few of us on this board know even a little regarding the community's state of mind.

The cool thing was that two of the mothers went to the press and officially denounced the rioting. Very cool. Hope it helps even a little.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off for a new TV.
 

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Yeah, but you can get some really cool stuff for free once the looting starts...

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off for a new TV.
ROFLMAO!! :D

I agree with you about there being too many dynamics involved to say it's an African-American thing. I disagree with anyone who says it's wrong that those people were shot in the first place. I believe that they would have been shot regardless of color, and some caniving individuals just decided to use this event to stir up trouble. Those are the losers/bums!
 

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Excellent Point Brutha

This is from the USA Today article:

Since 1995, 15 black men have died at the hands of Cincinnati police, four of them since November. However, in most of those incidents, the men first shot at or threatened police officers.
In this last incident, it seems that it may have been police error. We'll have to wait and see what the investigations bear out.

By the way, initial reports indicate that last night was pretty uneventful.
 

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Kill em all....let god sort'em out.......

The rioters that is. I don't give a fvck what color they are, if they don't have respect for other peoples business's or there own community.....fvck em....shoot all the POS.......

and to those living among this sh!t, hope your packin heat. be prepared for anything

good luck!
 

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Kill em all....let god sort'em out.......good luck!
DOWN HITLER!!!

See, that would be bad. It would undermine America in itself, and it would cause us to lose even more respect from other countries. Now if we were in CHINA or Nazi Germany...:eek:

Sig Heil buddy, Sig Heil :rolleyes::(
 

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Why is it I don't hear all this "Lock & load' stuff when it's white college kids rioting because they can't buy beer on campus anymore? People are tired of these dozens of isolated incidents of murder occurring each & every year, and they're tired of knowing that no one will be held responsible.
If they passed a federal law that no police officer who shoots an unarmed person could ever be a police officer, or own a gun again, these types of incidents would come to an immediate end. I think such a law would be fair, because the cop who shoots an unarmed person has inarguably demonstrated that he does not possess the good judgement to carry a firearm.
 

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Good judgement?

I don't know the circumstances the police officers in question were in during this particular incident. I do know this much.... If I am in a situation where I am convinced it is a question of either I die or the other guy dies.... I'm going to his funeral. Whether it later turns out that individual was unarmed or not. Personally I don't see any difference between being shot, knifed, or beat to death by bare hands. Dead is still dead.

As for not exercising good judgement in the use of a fire arm.... am I justified in shooting someone who is unarmed but is trying to shove me out a 4th floor window? Damn right I am! My point is... the entire situation must be considered before simply saying that shooting an unarmed person shows poor judgement.
 

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Exactly, and that kind of undetermined dynamics of a situation is why (1 reason among many) a blanket resolution, like what DoubleAught proposes, would not pass. Cops are allowed to shoot people (I speak for FL alone) when the cops life is in danger. Or to prevent innocent people from becoming at risk. Not just if the suspect has a gun. Don't know all the details about Cinncinatti, but if the shooting was truy unwarranted, then the officer will probably be punished.
 

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hey don, i would put your bike in the garage!!!!
 

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DoubleAught said:

If they passed a federal law that no police officer who shoots an unarmed person could ever be a police officer, or own a gun again, these types of incidents would come to an immediate end. I think such a law would be fair, because the cop who shoots an unarmed person has inarguably demonstrated that he does not possess the good judgement to carry a firearm.
There are plenty of people in the world that are just as dangerous unarmed as armed. And believe me, if you are a cop and you shoot someone, you had better be able to justify it.
 

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The problem with your argument is simply this..Police officers are supposed to risk their lives for those of the public, not the other way around. What that means is that you don't shoot me because you think I might be pulling out a gun, you restrain yourself until you know for sure what I'm doing, even at risk to your own life. Like you say, HondaNut, you are perfectly justified in shooting someone if they attempt to push you out of a window, but you cannot shoot them because they are in a room with you and the room has a window. And like you say FSJ, you can shoot someone when your life is in danger, but not when you're not sure, but you think something might happen. Can you see the difference between the two instances?
This is what people have had enough of, and the unwillingness of police administrations to implement tactics designed to minimize the possibility of unarmed people being killed is the main cause of the problem.
You may not believe there are any problems with the justice system here in America, but millions of other people do, and when all legal remedies are exhausted, to no effect, people will get their message across in whatever way they feel is necessary.
I don't write this to condone riots, but simply because someone wondered why people riot. It has nothing to do with being unemployed, or being a bum but with the release of pent-up rage and frustration. If you personally have never felt rage and frustration of this magnitude, then you should be thankful.
 
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you can shoot someone when your life is in danger, but not when you're not sure, but you think something might happen.
That's why I keep a small, cheap revolver with the serial numbers ground off. "Yes sir, officer, he pointed his gun at me." :D
 

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pete this probaley work with no question at all, as long as you dont have a criminal rap sheet!???

That's why I keep a small, cheap revolver with the serial numbers ground off. "Yes sir, officer, he pointed his gun at me."
 

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pete this probaley work with no question at all, as long as you dont have a criminal rap sheet!???

That's why I keep a small, cheap revolver with the serial numbers ground off. "Yes sir, officer, he pointed his gun at me."
Somebody teach this kid how to quote...!!! :rolleyes::D
 

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Somebody teach this kid how to quote...!!!

what do you mean by that??? "cbr birtha":D
 
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