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In my search for the right first bike, I've narrowed my choices down to the Kawi 600R and EX500 (years ranging from '87 to '91 for both bikes).

According to the information I've gathered so far, both bikes make good learning platforms.

I was wondering about the availability of parts for both of these models (especially if tires are still made to fit these bikes). Any information on this subject would HELP A LOT.

Also, if anyone wants to recommend one bike over the other for any reason, please go ahead and do so.

Thanks. A lot.

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Hey man!

I was faced with the same decision as you..
I choose the 600R. It is sportier, I wont outgrow it too fast. It is JUST AS TAME AS AN EX500!!! A little heavier, The EX500 wheelies easier! But the brakes SUCK!(ex500) THE SUSPENSION SUCKS!(ex500), You could put a fork brace on the EX but... My girlfriend could drive the 600R, but she finds it a bit heavy. I Just went 500 kilometers on the bike and.... wasn't to bad(probably could have went further on the EX), I wasnt wearing gloves soo my throttle hand became fatigued quickly, I will invest in some grips and maybe a corbin seat ?? oh oh and some gloves... very fun bike .. will go like stink when you want, and it is a great commuter!

GO FOR THE 600R!

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I have an '87 600R and it is my first bike. I have been very pleased so far. I agree with the other poster, the bike is a bit heavy and if you are looking for a wheelie machine, look elsewhere. But the Ninja is plenty fast. I have had mine for a year and I find new challenges every day with it. Mine has been bulletproof, even with 23,000 miles on the odometer.

Even though it is an older bike, it still turns heads. :cool: Just so you can comparison shop, I bought mine for $3000 and it included a custom paintjob and new tires. Some might say that I overpaid, but I got what I wanted. :)

To make a long story short, go for the 600R. Take care and good luck!


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I paid 2800$ cdn
36,000 k,mint With tankbag,disc lock ,alarm,manual,cargo net.....

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Go with the 6. You won't be disapointed! :D


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Just remember, the only people that don't laugh at people on 500s are...people on 500s. :) Anything is something to ride and I'm sure you'll be happy either way. My first bike was a 1990 CBR F1. Now I ride a 6R and love it.

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jackal,

dont fall into that 'bigger is better' crap. Anyone trying to tell you 'you'll outgrow it' or 'youll get laughed at' is feeding you a line.(i dont own a 500).

The EX500 is a great platform for learning. You can do alot on a smaller bike you cannot do on a 6, and it is far better for building your skills (the higher performance bikes help to isolate the rider from feedback, critical in skill building).

Anyone can twist a throttle for speed, but its a lot more fun to acquire speed through your own skills than through purchasing horsepower. Go to any track and youll see ex250s, ex500s, and fzr400s pouncing the 'real' bikes.

I dont want to dissuade you from a 6, i just wanted to point out that not all cyclists think displacement=speed. I learned ona 750, traded down to a 6, and am considering a ex250 as my next ride. And when someone laughs at me, ill be comfortable in knowing i can outride the moron who thinks that displacement indicates skill.

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SS is right..

For the street the ex is fine. But if you do get better you will come to realize that the stock brakes and susp are limited(I KNOW). If you do buy an ex trust me on this on put a F2 front end on it! and a zx6 rear and then you'll really show people up!

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Good point wannabe. Another great thing about the EX is that theyre easy (and fun)to upgrade. For the price difference between the two bikes you can do a LOT of mods.

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....many good points about the EX500, but i still feel the 600R has more longevity with new riders. Youll feel better having bought the 600R over the EX500.

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I agree with ss. The 600s gets all the press, but the 500 is a neat bike that can be upgraded at a very modest cost. There are a lot of ex500s in amateur racing that will rip big time.

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the moron who thinks that displacement indicates skill.
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Very good point.

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Jackal, if you don't plan on doing a lot of crashing (while learning to pop wheelies and such), you may want to consider a ZX6D (the first ZX6) You'd probably spend a little more money, but you'll get much better susp., 17" wheels to take the best tires, and more power. I expect this bike would keep you happy longer than a 500 or the first-generation 600.

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Just a note; the ZX6D and E are heavier, wider and more bulky than the 600R and EX.

I wouldnt recommend either as a beginner bike. And of course they cost more. Not to mention back in the day I could easily outride ANY ZX6D on my old 600R.

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Go with the EX500. I had one for two years and was able to keep up with a lot of bigger bikes in the corners. Great platform, very stable and comfortable. You'll definately enjoy it.

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I just bought a 1990 EX500 with only 1487 miles on it, in great shape, and with the Lockhart lower cowling(now lists at like $400.00), for $2000.00.This is my 15th motorcycle.I road tested it and it put a big grin on my face, so I bought it.I've owned older 750's, and a 1000 Sportster, and lots of dual-sports(still have one of those too).I felt like I got a great older bike, at a decent price, but the latest cutting edge technology just isn't important to me.
Get whatever makes you happy, and do the research on that model, so you don't buy on made in a bad year.I believe my EX500 will do me fine for now.

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