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I've narrowed my choices down to two bikes that I plan on getting around October 2001. The things I'm looking for most are easiest to handle and ride, comfort, and performance, in that order. I understand that the R6 is a more radical 600 bike, and also that the F4i is easier to handle. What are you guys thoughts about these two bikes? I also would like to get a bike with blue on it but honda for 2002 will only have black/red yellow/black, red/silver. Is the R6 really that radical? I mean it's a 600cc just like the F4i. What should be my deciding factor?
 

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I have a 2001 F4i and my bro has a 2000 R6. I've ridden' both and would have to say the F4i wins in everything except speed. Not that the F4i is slow, you can barely tell the difference. But the R6 has a bit more punch and wails like banshee.
 

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ChrisDogg said:
The things I'm looking for most are easiest to handle and ride, comfort, and performance, in that order
In that order:

F4i
F4i
R6

in answer to your question if its that much more radical.. it really depends on how experianced a rider you are. It could be from unoticed for the majority of riders to a world of differce on a track. Bear in mind, the F4i is a rocket and can hadle its own.

One thing has to be remembered... in the world of sportbikes, there are 4-6 contenders in every class of bike.. they are al pretty close give or take, but one has to be fastest, one has to be best handling, one has to be easiest to ride and one has to be most comfortable.

Since some are contradicting features, you have to see whats important to you... given what you said it has to be the F4i..

If you wanna throw in sex appeal, WHOA! those Yamahas are sexy!!!
 

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I just got the new issue of Motor Cyclist mag. In there they discuss the pro's and con's of the all the big 4 600cc. (F4i, GXSR, 6R, and R6). So go to the book store and read it. You will find very good information about the suspension, ergos, tires, speed, hp, engine, handling, well you name it. Just to give you some info. that is on it:

Performance
1/4 mile

F4i: [email protected] 6R: [email protected]

Gixxer600: [email protected] R6: [email protected]

Horsepower / Torque

F4i: [email protected],500 rpm / [email protected],250rpm

6R: [email protected],500 rpm / [email protected],250rpm

Gixxer: [email protected],000 rpm / [email protected],750rpm

R6: [email protected],500 rpm / [email protected],000rpm

The rank is as follows:

1) R6 (slightly better than F4i)
2) F4i (2nd due 2 the seat & clutch cable slightly blocking odometer / most user friendly)
3) GSX-R600 (track oriented)
4) ZX-6R (most comfortable)

Hope this is helpful.
 

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Check out the latest issue of Motor Cyclist Magazine (August)
and decide for yourself... Based on their tests, I would buy an R-6 without a doubt, If i were into that sort of thing (600's).....
 

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You know what? I almost baught the Gixxer 01 because what it said on the magz. However, I went to the dealer and sat on it, and then I sat on the Kawi, R6, and F4i and felt more comfortable than the Gixxer. Then I sat down on the other one going back and foward like 20 min. I ended up likeing the R6 and the F4i, and I couldn't make up my mind. So, now I am going to wait till 02 are out and see if the R6 come FI. If it doesn't then I am getting the 01 white/red F4i.
 

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Its a toss up

Yeah, it is definiteley a tough choice, I like em both. The thing that's going to decide it for me is comfort. I sat on a Gixxer and it is very uncomfortable for me. I'm going to wait and see what the 2002 models are like first, then I will take it from there. Also whatever dealership gives me the best deal.
 

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Yeap that is true too, ChrisDogg. I found a place in LA where I can get the 01 for $8000 red/white model out the door. I am going to wait for the 02. I talk to some sales guy from the dealer, and he told me if the 02 is the same price as the 01 he will give me the white/red bike for $7600 out the door;) Only if he has some on stock. So he better have some. This is the # of the dealer in LA is you want it 626-974-6600.
 

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Killer Deal

7600? Killer deal for that rocket. I would take that deal myself also. If there aren't major changes on the 02 bikes, I may opt for a 01 bike and save me some payments.
 

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I don't think the F4i is going to be changed at all. For what I know from the dealer is that there is going to be new colors...so far Yellow/Black. However, I really want to know what the R6 changes are going to be though.
 

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The mags all say that the Gixxer is uncomfortable..
I definitely agree....
I've ridden one.
The mags seem to be pretty good about describing the pros and cons for each bike in their comparos.
The best info would be from the current owners of these bikes in your area....
I know a guy who owns an F4i and he thinks its great for "real world" riding, traded in his '00
R6 for it.
he had nothing bad to say about it at all.....
It's tough though, R6, F4i.......F4i, R6?

I don't think you could go wrong either way....
 

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That's true. Either the F4i and the R6 are good bikes. On the august edition of Motor Cyclist the 01 R6 is first and F4i is second because of minor issues such as, the damn seat is not comfortable and it gets hot on long ride. Also the clutch cable blocks the speedo. a little bit. And that's about it. So, if the 02 R6 is not FI, then I am going for the 01 F4i because the 02 F4i is going to be the sames except new colors & graphics.
 

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HeckLer1979 said:
Yeap that is true too, ChrisDogg. I found a place in LA where I can get the 01 for $8000 red/white model out the door. I am going to wait for the 02. I talk to some sales guy from the dealer, and he told me if the 02 is the same price as the 01 he will give me the white/red bike for $7600 out the door;) Only if he has some on stock. So he better have some. This is the # of the dealer in LA is you want it 626-974-6600.
Here is the website of the dealer in LA. They do not have the prices for the new bikes except for the used ones.

www.bertsmotorcyclemall.com
 

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one thing to keep in mind

Yamaha is being somewhat tight lipped about it, but they are doing some pretty serious revamps to their bikes. Talk to Chris_Y2K for more about the Yamahas, but I'd say wait and see what rolls off the production line. It's good that you have it narrowed down already. That makes buying a heck of a lot easier. The R6 is a very responsive bike so be sure you know what you're doing when you get on that bad boy. The Honda will be a little more forgiving, but will perform just as awesome. Sex appeal is totally to the Yamaha though. :D Either way you can't go wrong. Both have power and well, my sig says the rest...

:) Good luck!!
 

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Thankx. One thing that I am hearing is that a lot of people say that the R6 has more power or whatever. However, for the people who only ride on the streets that power won't be used at all. I don't even think that all the people who have a 600cc use more than 30% of the bike's power. Plus in order to get the real power of the R6 you have to rev it. Since I am not going to be racing anytime soon either the R6 or F4i will be the same. So, a lot of people say that the F4i is more forgiving...hmmm i don't think so if you are going 60 mph and u fall from either on of those bikes you will be hurt. Is not like the F4i is going to tell you "hey don't do that. Your going too fast." The R6 has like 1.1 hp more than the F4i; however, the F4i has like 1.1 more torque. Furthermore, the F4i has a faster 1/4 mile than the R6. (Read Motor Cyclist august issue). Both bike have to be respected, and I completely disagree that a bike is more forgiven than another because it is not the bike who hurt you, it is the rider who hurt himself/herself. So, it would be stupid for someone to say to someone else to get the F4i because people have the mislead idea of what "FORGIVING" is. It doesn't matter what bike you are riding because if you do not have throttle control, you will be in trouble no matter what a magz or people say about a bike being more "FORGIVING." So, I hope you get my point with this big all paragraph lol:rolleyes: :D
 

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"forgiving"

Ok, when I said forgiving, I wasn't talking about making huge mistakes while riding. NO bike will forgive that. I'm saying the little things. The R6 requires alittle more experience on two wheels. Don't get me wrong I'm not taking anything from Honda, but if I was new to riding 600ccs, I'd rather start out on the Honda and work my way up to the Yamaha. BOTH BIKES are VERY awesome. Just designed differently. I'm not trying to start any love spats here. Just putting in my $.02.
 

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Actually you don't requiered any experience to ride any bike. A person can start riding on whatever bike they want. For example, my friend started on a 01 R6 and he is doing good. But not everyone is a good rider though. As for I started on CB125 in the MSF school hehehe...then my friend let me ride his 94 F2, which was really good ride. I have like 3 weeks of experienced so far. However, I haven't been riding for about 2 weeks now cause I have not bike:mad:. But I am thinking of getting the honda though. Not because of what people or the magz say. Instead I am getting it becasue when I sat on it, it felt more confortable. Not the seat, but the overal bike. It felt lighter somehow more than the others. Plus just to be riding on the streets like I am going to do for a while, any of the big 4 japanese bikes is good. Who knows may be i'll end up buying the R6....it all depends on the deal the dealer offers me.:D
 
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