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I just bought an '02F4i for my first bike last week. I have been riding it around all over the place. I think it is a fine first bike for me. It all depends on how comfortable you are on it and how well you know your limits. I am a new rider, so I don't push it and do things I know I have no business doing.

If you keep it sane, you will be fine on it...but only if you feel comfortable with it.
 

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This has been covered a bunch..try doing a search..for first bike..or something similar..

A 500 would be better..IMHO..and there are many reasons why..:D
 

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This is probably the most common question. Like Hammer said, a 500 might be better. It's not impossible to start sportriding on a 600. But as a 1st streetbike it's definately discouraged. Simply because when you make any common beginner's mistake (which 99.9% of all new riders do) then it helps NOT to have a bike with such a sharp power to weight ratio. 91 rwhp is nothing to bat an eye at. 500's are much more forgiving.

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I purchased a 600F4i a couple months ago and it is technically the first sportbike I have owned and I love it. However, I spent an entire summer riding a ZX-6 and I took the MSF class right away too.

What the others are telling you ceratinly has some merit to it, so I would keep that in the back of your mind. If its your first bike altogether and you have never ridden, be warned that a 600 is a handful. Plenty of people will try and tell you otherwise, but don't believe 'em(not enough power...you will get bored...blah blah blah). For a first (and maybe second or third) a 600 will do everything you need and then some. If you go ahead with the purchase, I would take the MSF as soon as you can and make sure you spend the time getting used to your new toy...the F4i is a great bike and I love mine, but believe that it will get away from you if you don't pay attention!! Good luck, be safe. :)

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Went to a couple of dealers... One dealer quoted me $7800 out the door for a Silver and red one...threw in bike cover and magnetic tank bag... other dealer $8700 for a Yellow and Black one... told me he couldnt match the $7800... being its the yellow and black bike that most people want... Do they really charge more for different color bikes?
 

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I bought my new 2002 F4I on June 14, 2002 for $7,599.00

The color doesn't matter. I had to wait for a week since Ray Wilt (Hanover, PA) had to get it directly from the factory (no yellow/black in stock).. All colors are the same price.. at least there SHOULD be NO difference

Being quoted $8,700 sounds ridiculous to me.. being Honda's MSRP is only $8,100..

As for the F4I being your first bike.... It depends on your comfort level and maturity level.
I've never rode.. no dirtbike, 4 wheeler experience at all. I'm 27 years old, with a clean driving record, so my willingness to hold back, and not doing stupid $hit plays a big part in my having right under 1000 smooth, accident free miles on my new F4I.

First day was spent in a big parking lot in first gear, learning how the bike handled, the controls, body positioning, and other various basic skills.

If you get the F4I, or any 600 class sportbike.. LEARN the bike, and learn it well..... One mishap, or too much twist of the wrist, and if you're not 100% attentive.. this baby will throw you right off, and not think twice about it...

Just my two cents :cool:
 

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I bought my new 2002 F4I on June 14, 2002 for $7,599.00

The color doesn't matter. I had to wait for a week since Ray Wilt (Hanover, PA) had to get it directly from the factory (no yellow/black in stock).. All colors are the same price.. at least there SHOULD be NO difference

Being quoted $8,700 sounds ridiculous to me.. being Honda's MSRP is only $8,100..

As for the F4I being your first bike.... It depends on your comfort level and maturity level.
I've never rode.. no dirtbike, 4 wheeler experience at all. I'm 27 years old, with a clean driving record, so my willingness to hold back, and not doing stupid $hit plays a big part in my having right under 1000 smooth, accident free miles on my new F4I.

First day was spent in a big parking lot in first gear, learning how the bike handled, the controls, body positioning, and other various basic skills.

If you get the F4I, or any 600 class sportbike.. LEARN the bike, and learn it well..... One mishap, or too much twist of the wrist, and if you're not 100% attentive.. this baby will throw you right off, and not think twice about it...

Just my two cents :cool:
 

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JOSEPHLB said:
I bought my new 2002 F4I on June 14, 2002 for $7,599.00

The As for the F4I being your first bike.... It depends on your comfort level and maturity level.
I've never rode.. no dirtbike, 4 wheeler experience at all. I'm 27 years old, with a clean driving record, so my willingness to hold back, and not doing stupid $hit plays a big part in my having right under 1000 smooth, accident free miles on my new F4I.

First day was spent in a big parking lot in first gear, learning how the bike handled, the controls, body positioning, and other various basic skills.

If you get the F4I, or any 600 class sportbike.. LEARN the bike, and learn it well..... One mishap, or too much twist of the wrist, and if you're not 100% attentive.. this baby will throw you right off, and not think twice about it...

Just my two cents :cool:
Allow me to try and shed some light on this subect, and why I believe a smaller bike is better to learn on..

1...Cheaper..hence you have a fear of dropping a 4k bike as opossed to a 8k bike.
2...the smaller(250-500cc0 is much lighter, thus easier to handle..and after the first few rides..of getting over the fear/nervous factor..this is a blessing in your learning curve.
3...Less power=much more USER friendly..once again there's that word..fear..as in I hope I don't give this bike to much gas, and crash..With a smaller motor, your apt to take to the bike much quicker, thus your learning curve will vastly be greater, IMHO than a new rider that starts on a 600, or 750...:rolleyes: Oh, and mistakes..what if ya did give it too much gas..? well, say you have a 50hp. bike compared to a 100 hp. bike, which would you rather make the mistake on..I'd choose the 50hp. bike any day..
4...Which bike do you feel better on..? Lets suppose you snag a 100hp. 600 for your 1st. bike, lets say that you'ev never riden, or have very little experience..Let's also say that, your a tad nervous riding that 600 for the first 1000 miles..and IF your Honest..most new riders are..So that 1000 miles it took for you to get..semi comfy on the bike..K? There could be exceptions to this..but I'd hazzard a guess the # would be very small..Now put that same person on a 250, or 500 ninja/GS..and I'll bet ya any amount of $$$ that it doesn't take that 1000 miles to get comfy..in effect..the 600 rider wasted IMHO lots of miles, just to get sorta use to the bike..so what happened.? The 600 slowed the learning curve..

5...It's much more fun to ride a slow bike fast, than to ride a fast bike slow..This doesn;t ,mean racing all over town, this means to be able to ride a given bike w/o a ton of fear, respect YES..and to be comfy on the bike, and IMHO, this happens much faster when learning on a smaller bike..ever wonder why most, if not all the pro's started on 50-80cc bikes, yep, cause they were little kids, but...I'll bet lots of em..rode those 50-80cc bikes for a long time..why? cause ya can throw em around, there's absolutly no fear factor..so you tend to try things on those bikes, you might not try on a more powerful bike, why.? because of the fear factor..more power=more speed, the faster ya go, the more pain you can induce, possibly..

6...Fun..it's so much more fun to ride a smaller bike, heck..there are guys that would embarass some of you in the twisties, or on a track..yep, the guys/gals that ride 250's..and your on your 600/750, and this little 250, just comes flyin by ya..on the outside..:D

7...LOOKS...I really wish the manufactures would make a slick lookin 250/500...I'd be willing to bet, a bunch of ya want a 600..or bigger, because of the looks..? All I can say is, try to make this the LAST priority when choosing a first bike.

8...We'd like to see ya around for the next 25 yrs...so many new riders get hurt, or worse, due to inexperience..as in panic situations..just read any of the m/c boards..there's a bunch of em...I wa going into a turn too hot, so I slammed on my rear brake...and the bike slid out from under me..when in reality, the turn prolly could have been made, if ya didn't panic..because you were prolly going to fast, but if ya had that 250/500 that may not have happened..this is just an example..

I'm not very good at exspessing my thoughts and views via my key board..so there may be errors...:rolleyes:

Ride safe ...and Practice anything, that's not second nature to ya..:thumb:

Oh..,and sorry for the long rant..:D
 

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I just bought a Suzuki GS500 for my first bike a couple of weeks ago. I just hit 600 miles tonight. It's easy to learn on...little fear of accidentally giving it too much throttle and having it jump out from under you. However, it will jump right up to 80-90 miles an hour quite quickly.

I bought a leftover 2001 model for $3300 just because the dealership wanted to get rid of their last 2001 model...really badly. :D

No fairings to worry about scratching/denting/breaking. Talk about easy to clean. The only chrome are the mirrors and headlight. Everything else is powdercoated. Hose it down and go. I still get compliments on what a sharp looking bike it is. Sportbike and Harley riders all seem to love the naked look.

Insurance is damned near free. Full coverage 20/50/20 with 100/250 deductibles and roadside assistance is only $18 per month for me (30 years old with clean record).

If I had gotten a 600cc bike for my first one, I would have been scared stiff worrying about killing myself with a newbie mistake. I can concentrate on the road more instead of how many millimeters of throttle I can safely give it before it jumps out from under me.

Ride what you want, just be careful..whatever you choose. :thumb:
 

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Not that Hammer's post doesn't have some very good advice, but just thought I'd throw in that I have 2 friends who have bought 2k2 F4i's as first bikes and have done very well with them so far.

Just ride within your limits.
 

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Not that Hammer's post doesn't have some very good advice, but just thought I'd throw in that I have 2 friends who have bought 2k2 F4i's as first bikes and have done very well with them so far.

Just ride within your limits.
And I hope they continue..but, how do you define ..very well..?

I'm as you may know, not talking about having a accident only, as I stated there are other aspects involved.. If you definition of very well, takes those aspects into account, and the term very well, if used by a very good rider, then yes..I'd say they are doing very well..But I can't help but always wonder when I see a post such as yours....if they wouldn't be doing "even" better..if they started on a even smaller bike.????
 

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Hammer does have some very good points. I am a new rider straight out the MSF course. Buying my 2K2 CBR was a monetary decision before anything else. I got great financing and a great price on it and the insurance wasn't that bad.

This is a fast bike, but also a very friendly bike. You can cruise on it when you want and get on it when you want and it does everything well. I really want to become a skilled rider, rather than a spot on the road, so I am taking it easy and learning the bike and getting comfortable with doing one thing before I move onto the next.

You DO have to watch out when gassing it, cause it gets really powerful really quick. Anything under 7-8K rpm is fine and won't coax the bike to jump out from under you, but when you get up above that, WATCH OUT! And yes, I am scared to put it down, so I don't take the risks I would on an older, less powerful bike. A smaller, older bike wouldn't be that powerful or nice, it would give you much more room for error. So I just have to be a lot more careful. It may slow down the learning curve a bit, but in the end, I have a sweet bike that I can't imagine getting tired of that I will know how to ride well.

If you decide to go new, just be careful! Solicit advice from experienced riders and don't do anything you aren't comfortable with until you are! I am not experienced, so I will shut up now!

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......and for god's sake, pony up the cash for some good riding gear to protect your @ss JUST IN CASE Murphy's Law kicks in. I see so many people around my area riding in shorts and a T-shirt on thier superfast bikes and it just gives us a bad name.
 

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I have an 02 f4i but believe me it wasn't me first bike. I started with a GS500. If you drop it your not worried about paying out $500 for a new side panel. Believe me I dropped mine many times. You really want to get comfy on something smaller before you jumped to something bigger. And a GS500 isn't a slow bike. I rode with all sportbikes and kept up just fine unless they exceeded 110 and then I was on my own. I furred mine out and it looked really good. But I guess it's your call. Be safe.
 

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Allow me to try and shed some light on this subect, and why I believe a smaller bike is better to learn on..

5...It's much more fun to ride a slow bike fast, than to ride a fast bike slow..This doesn;t ,mean racing all over town, this means to be able to ride a given bike w/o a ton of fear, respect YES..and to be comfy on the bike, and IMHO, this happens much faster when learning on a smaller bike..ever wonder why most, if not all the pro's started on 50-80cc bikes, yep, cause they were little kids, but...I'll bet lots of em..rode those 50-80cc bikes for a long time..why? cause ya can throw em around, there's absolutly no fear factor..so you tend to try things on those bikes, you might not try on a more powerful bike, why.? because of the fear factor..more power=more speed, the faster ya go, the more pain you can induce, possibly..

6...Fun..it's so much more fun to ride a smaller bike, heck..there are guys that would embarass some of you in the twisties, or on a track..yep, the guys/gals that ride 250's..and your on your 600/750, and this little 250, just comes flyin by ya..on the outside..:D
Little bikes are fun to ride :D I recently got rid of my ex250 for a larger bike and boy do I miss it! I wish that I could have kept it and bought my new bike (which I do love :D ) but unfortunately I don't have a ton of $$$. Good luck with whatever you pick :)
 

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I bought a '02 F4i in March as my first bike. I've put a thousand miles on it since then, and taken an MSF class in between. The MSF class is essential. Take it.

As for the rest, when it comes to *any* bike, nothing in the world is as important as GOOD JUDGEMENT AND RESPECT FOR THE MACHINE. Nothing, not the class, not experience, will replace those two things. Understand if you try to look cool, you'll increase the change you end up a splat on the road. Ride carefully, respect the machine, and take the time to actually learn from others, don't try and do stupid things and you'll be ok. In short, don't be a tool.

Oh, I forgot to mention. Not being a tool means riding safe, that means not just for you, but for those sharing the road around you. We want them to look out for us, we have a responsibility too. Wear a helmet. You get hit in the forhead by a june bug at 70-80, it will be very hard not to be affected be that. So get protective gear. It's not just for your safety, it's to help you be safe when there are other people around you.

Have fun!
-Jason
 
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