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09-14-2005 04:09 PM
Smitty First one was in '46. I just walked in quoted my age, they did not even as for birth certificate, put down my name & gave number of miles I had driven.

It was around mid or late 60s that all you had to do was say you rode a m/c, & it was added to you age license. Like here a #5 is good for a regular car or up to a 1 ton truck & #6 is for m/c only. Even those with top 18 wheeler & such being air brakes & all CANNOT ride a m/c without a #6.

As long as one keeps up the bit about renewing their DL with #6 then then can still ride a m/c legally though last m/c they read, if they ever read one, was a moped back in '64.

Due to a charge of Dangerous Driving in '77 when my DL came back after 6 months it did NOT include a #6 so I took the challenge & passed.
09-14-2005 02:06 PM
RoadStainR6 All I did was walk into the DMV and give them a 10 dollar money order and show them my drivers license. Bam... I was allowed to ride. Didn't know everyone else had so much trouble. Thats all you have to do to get your permit here in PA. Then take the msf and you get your license. You can ride for a year on your permit and then it just turns into a license. Too easy. I'm pretty sure the MSF and license helps a ton on insurance though. Only thing is with the permit you can't ride at night or have passengers.
09-14-2005 06:09 AM
Blue Jays Hi Angrypenguin-

Excellent point about combining the MSF/DL into one event. The other benefit is they typically offer the beginner courses using much smaller motorcycles than what folks would typically purchase for the street. Great suggestion.

~ Blue Jays ~
09-14-2005 06:03 AM
Angrypenguin Depending your state laws you can usually just take a MSF class and be done with it. That way you learn important skills and get your license.

If you don't want to take your class you might be able to get your permit by just taking the written part. That way you can practice with a friend nearby with no worries.
09-14-2005 05:38 AM
Blue Jays Hi All-

Riding without all paperwork (license, registration, & insurance) isn't worth the potential hassle and expense. If it has taken you a couple of years to get a motorcycle don't fret the extra couple of days to secure the documentation.

I agree with Vash that the most difficult part is coordinating schedules with friends who already have their motorcycle licenses so that they can accompany you to get yours with the Division of Motor Vehicles.

If you feel compelled to practice without a license have an endorsed friend ride your bike to an office parking lot on a Sunday afternoon. You drive his/her car which contains the traffic pylons or whatever else you're using for drills. A police officer might be inclined to cut you a break if he sees you in a safe parking lot on private property just doing some innocent motorcycle agility exercises in preparation for your roadtest.

~ Blue Jays ~
09-14-2005 05:16 AM
Vash I rode on a country road for a few weeks before I got my liscence. I had a permit the whole time. Getting the liscence itself isnt that hard. The hardest part is the prep, since you gotta have an tagged and insured bike, helmet, a tagged and insured chase vehicle, and a chase driver. From then you just go around a couple of blocks, while the guy honks to get you to turn in whatever direction. Take my word for it, ride like you are 80 years old. Dont even get up to the speed limit.

As for insurance, to me thats even more important than a liscence. You can insure a bike without having a liscence. Hell you can even insure it if its not your bike.



09-14-2005 03:16 AM
Angrypenguin Its idiotic to ride without your license. Besides the huge fines, possible jail time and bike impoundment you open yourself up to so much extra liability.
09-13-2005 06:41 PM
Hendog24 Neither...no sticker on his tag.
09-13-2005 06:41 PM
jrog24 Why is that dumb?
09-13-2005 06:38 PM
sidewaysducati Man you can't be for real.
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