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10-07-2015 07:37 AM
Kano Does having a 'crash' make you a bad person or a bad rider?
09-16-2014 01:34 PM
kdhbmh77 Unfortunately I crashed the very first time I rode a motorcycle on the street. I was 18 and was way too cocky. I went off the road and onto someones lawn and slid on my stomach across the grass for maybe 30 feet. To show how smart I was, I was wearing zero protective clothing so it is good I was only going 40 mph and landed on the grass. Lesson learned. Now it is my Scorpion helmet and Joe Rocket gear ALL the time.
11-28-2010 09:13 PM
Impulse Just going to bring this thread back to life real quick. This hqppned to a friend of mine who unlike most of the people here didn't have a helmet on when he was riding.

It was a couple years ago when he was leading and I was following in my car and we where heading back to my place for the night. A oil truck had over turned earlier That night and some of the oil leaked onto the road. (Bet you can see where this is going ) well he hit a patch of oil going about 65 and went off to the right rolling while the bike went stright. Thank god that I was behind when I happened (3 am) had to have a metal plate put in his skull along with a couple stiches.
10-28-2009 04:56 AM
kanwisch
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Originally Posted by Therion View Post
So what is the proper procedure when you suddenly find yourself on loose gravel? I had a wipe out on a little Honda CT70 once when I entered a turn with gravel and had a bad habit of only braking with the front wheel. In a split second I was on the asphalt sideways. Had roadrash everywhere.
Well, the first rule is to have scouted the road you're going to be tearing up. At a minimum you should be completely familiar with it and know what risks might appear during any given season. 'Course that's easy to say sitting in the midwest with few quality sections as opposed to the coasties. If you've ever been to the track, hitting the street hard loses quite a bit of its luster.

If you hit gravel or grass, use rear brake only and lightly, keeping the bike straight up as much as possible with no sudden movements. Everything should be very smooth until you come to a stop.

Surprises in the roadway are just a fact of riding. Experience is the most likely guide through the trouble which is partly why the MSF courses (Beginner and Experienced) and track schoools are pushed.
10-27-2009 07:14 PM
Therion
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Originally Posted by 07gsxr600red View Post
just got my 07 gsxr 600...bout 5 months on it..driving down a back road that i always ride...tons of tight turns and hills...anyways i was doin about 65mph round a turn( to left) and i see a bright a$$ orange sign saying loose gravel!!! yeah talk bout one fo those oh shit moments.. well i immediately started braking but too late, huge rocks, hell almost bricks...i went down no doubt doin about 50mph slid into an oak tree... tore the left side of my bike pretty bad...turns out a logging company just made a new gravel road and dropped some rocks(bricks) in the road...watch signs!!!!!!

So what is the proper procedure when you suddenly find yourself on loose gravel? I had a wipe out on a little Honda CT70 once when I entered a turn with gravel and had a bad habit of only braking with the front wheel. In a split second I was on the asphalt sideways. Had roadrash everywhere.
10-11-2008 10:24 AM
07gsxr600red just got my 07 gsxr 600...bout 5 months on it..driving down a back road that i always ride...tons of tight turns and hills...anyways i was doin about 65mph round a turn( to left) and i see a bright a$$ orange sign saying loose gravel!!! yeah talk bout one fo those oh shit moments.. well i immediately started braking but too late, huge rocks, hell almost bricks...i went down no doubt doin about 50mph slid into an oak tree... tore the left side of my bike pretty bad...turns out a logging company just made a new gravel road and dropped some rocks(bricks) in the road...watch signs!!!!!!
04-07-2008 05:00 AM
snakesht
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Originally Posted by kanwisch View Post
For me all but one crash, ironically, have resulted from my own failure to recognize I wasn't focused enough for the ride. That's the only other thing I'd add to your list.
+1. Lack of focus can cause a crash in no time. I'm a perfect example of that, since my first crash happened pulling out of a driveway. Shortest ride I ever took. I had several thousand miles under my belt, but that doesn't make a damn bit of difference.
04-07-2008 04:50 AM
kanwisch
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Originally Posted by zrider View Post
OK, I've been rider sport bikes for 30+ years...and haven't slowed much.

There are two things that have kept me alive over the years. So simple, even a cavemean can do it. :-)

1. ALWAYS KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN !!!
Always look at all cars in striking distance of you! That means to either side, infront and behind. NEVER let this rule fail you. One slip can be you doom.
Look way ahead in traffic so you can be prepared...and prepare those behind you if you have to brake suddenly.(flash your brake light)

2. ALWAYS BE SEEN !!!
Never be in a blind spot. This differs with all cars. USE YOUR HORN for gods sake. Go to another country and you will see they use it often! If you still don't know if they see you, DON"T stay there!!!

Other tips: I believe in a offensive/defensive style of riding. "I" deside where I'm going to be on the road. I never let cars or traffic pin me in a bad spot. If I have to go 100 OR 0 to get out of harms way, I'll do it.
Use you brake light to get cars to back-off that are too close! Most riders get cruched from behind in traffic because cars don't stop as fast as bikes. so use your mirrors constantly.
Make eye contact with other drivers...or at least see where they are looking.

Be safe all you riders!
Be seen and keep your eyes OPEN
and of course...keep the rubber-side down...at least one tire anyways.

Zrider
...Now riding an SV1000s :-)
Good suggestions, definitely. For me all but one crash, ironically, have resulted from my own failure to recognize I wasn't focused enough for the ride. That's the only other thing I'd add to your list. The two items you put up there I do actively and they have, indeed, saved me from many a collision
04-05-2008 07:59 AM
zrider
Two things to keep you alive on the road

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Originally Posted by tlosman View Post
Everytime I hear about something where "the driver didn't know you were right next to him" stories I ask myself if this could happen to me. Did you have a stock pipe on your bike? I think people overlook a loud exhaust as a crucial safety feature. A loud pipe in second gear at 8k slowly decelerating is a way tell people you are there. Thoughts?
OK, I've been rider sport bikes for 30+ years...and haven't slowed much.

There are two things that have kept me alive over the years. So simple, even a cavemean can do it. :-)

1. ALWAYS KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN !!!
Always look at all cars in striking distance of you! That means to either side, infront and behind. NEVER let this rule fail you. One slip can be you doom.
Look way ahead in traffic so you can be prepared...and prepare those behind you if you have to brake suddenly.(flash your brake light)

2. ALWAYS BE SEEN !!!
Never be in a blind spot. This differs with all cars. USE YOUR HORN for gods sake. Go to another country and you will see they use it often! If you still don't know if they see you, DON"T stay there!!!

Other tips: I believe in a offensive/defensive style of riding. "I" deside where I'm going to be on the road. I never let cars or traffic pin me in a bad spot. If I have to go 100 OR 0 to get out of harms way, I'll do it.
Use you brake light to get cars to back-off that are too close! Most riders get cruched from behind in traffic because cars don't stop as fast as bikes. so use your mirrors constantly.
Make eye contact with other drivers...or at least see where they are looking.

Be safe all you riders!
Be seen and keep your eyes OPEN
and of course...keep the rubber-side down...at least one tire anyways.

Zrider
...Now riding an SV1000s :-)
12-12-2007 12:31 AM
DFENS
Bump Bump Crash!

I'd had the ninjette for, oh, an entire 8 days and had put a few hundred miles on it. Tried to get ahold of a friend of mine, I was wanting to tackle "The Snake" as it's called, a strip of highway 421 running through Johnson County, TN. Twistie goodness.

Didn't hear back from him, but I wanted to go anyway... so I did. Rode up 19E to 91, from there to the intersection of 421/91. I went right, and made it along fairly well... I'd been going slooooow, hardly leaning at all (still ride that way for this road, not familiar with it enough yet), but I was feeling good - nice weather, second week of September and we've had a massive drought this year, so wonderful riding weather. I remember thinking to myself, after looking at my speedo "25, 30 mph... I'm kicking a$$!!!" and suddenly, zip zip two riders go zipping by me, tapping the brakes and zipping along through the switchbacks at somewhere around 50 mph... I took that turn at a full 25, tops.

A mile or so later, I come to this downhill switchback, a darn tight left hairpin. I realized I was going too fast and got on the brakes, but too little too late... I made it halfway through the turn, and between my total newness and a little bit of target fixation, found myself going straight towards the guardrail, instead of on down the road (which is how I would rather have been going...)

Well, I can go straight into the guardrail, flip over the bike and go falling down a mountain, or I can lay it down... I'd recently fallen down a mountain on a hiking trip gone off-course... so I laid it down. I'd managed to get the bike off the perpendicular to be at about a 30 degree with the rail, fell off the left side of the bike landing on the road (I slid into the loose sand/gravel), and the bike slid sideways to the guardrail. Amid the cursing, I stood up and looked downhill, seeing two riders already turning around (I'm pretty sure it was the same two guys who passed me earlier). A few minutes later, I'm standing there talking to a group of over a half-dozen riders, they've pulled my bike out and taken off-adjusted-put back on my shift lever. I ride the bike (sputteringly) home and say more than a few thank-you prayers. I was fine, bike lost front turn signals and cracked the fairing a bit (opened up a wound from the previous owner's low-side)

Moral - If you can avoid it, don't ride solo, especially in some new twisties, and definitely not until you have plenty of experience. Don't go too fast, and don't think "Woo, I'm kicking a$$". Someone once told me the surest way to wreck is to think you are good.

Crash two - I'd come out of some twisties, took the highway back home. Stopped at a parking lot to make a phone call to a buddy, seeing what he was up to as I had the rest of the day to kill. Went back to the highway, was turning left so I had to cross the 2 lanes and median before going the way I wanted to go. There was no traffic, and I was feeling pretty good, I was leaning a bit on the turn and hit second... and I blipped the throttle. For some reason, my brain was thinking "downshift" while my body did "upshift". Back end kicked out, and I panicked again... I just didn't want to let go of the throttle, and wound second gear out as I drifted across the two lanes of highway and onto the shoulder. Ended up going into some vines at about 45-50 mph... again diving off the left side when I realized things weren't going good.

Moral - don't let adrenaline flow when riding. I was in a hurry to get to my pal's house and play some Halo3. Buggered my right thumb, aggravating an old injury from my childhood karate days. I have the helmet I was wearing on a shelf, housing my front turn-signal housing from my first crash in a robot-like arrangement. I'd just gotten that helmet too, darnit. The bike was fine, except the shift pedal was massively bent. When my buddy got there, I tried to start the bike a few times (was too stunned to notice the killswitch was off). Decided to let it air out, as I'd thought it had merely flooded, and when I set the sidestand down in the gravel, I walked away without checking. The one time I don't check to make sure it's stable, it falls... left mirror and clutch lever took each other out. Busted the mirror and broke the tip of the lever off... but on the plus side, the lever is better now as it curved outward in a very uncomfortable manner, but now it fits my hand perfectly.

Some closing thoughts that I've picked up...

"the number one cause of biker accidents is the nut that connects the handlebars to the seat"

Both crashes, my mesh armored jacket saved me greatly... first one I had a stiff arm, second one I torqued my thumb a great bit. Jacket held up with both pavement encounters, without a scratch to it. Always wear the proper gear... 80 dollar helmet, 80 dollar jacket, 40 dollar gloves, and blue jeans. Doesn't have to be the most expensive, but go for functionality (I'm looking into some boots now as well as full leathers for this coming spring).

Ya'll Take Care,
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