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06-17-2002 12:55 PM
old squid
Re: Might have some bad news......

Quote:
Originally posted by NevadaF3
"VIRGINIA CITY — Two people riding in a high-performance race car were killed in a crash during an annual car race near here Saturday.

Storey County sheriff’s deputies said driver Patrick Michael Jemison, 42, of Incline Village, and passenger Virginia Lynn Davis, 43, of Show Low, Ariz., were pronounced dead at the scene.

Deputy John Tyson said the accident occurred on State Route 341 during a time-trial run of the Audi Car Club Hill Climb Race.

A preliminary investigation shows the driver went into a curve too fast and lost control of his Dodge Viper. The vehicle slid off the roadway and fell about 250 feet down a ravine.

The race course on State Route 341 stretches for about seven miles between Virginia City and Silver City. The highway serves as the truck route between the two 19th-century mining boom towns located about 30 miles southeast of Reno.

The event is sanctioned by the Nevada Department of Transportation.

The accident is under investigation by the Nevada Highway Patrol."


This article was in today's paper along with a picture of the wrecked Viper. I am not sure as yet, but I have a feeling that this is the same guy that I raced in the original post - he may have been practicing the route that day I saw him. I am going to watch tonight's news and see if they show a picture of the car right-side-up so I can get a better look. The race the Viper was in is an annual event that takes place on the same road that many sportbike riders (myself included) do some high speed driving on. It is the same road that I raced the Viper on before. Unfortunately, a couple people died on that road yesterday. Lets all drive safe, I know its a car, but it is still fast driving and we can all try and keep this in mind when we are thinking about that double yellow blind corner pass around the semi....Know what I mean? keep the rubber side down.
Wow, that's depressing news, NevadaF3, particularly in light of your observation that this is probably the same guy you were having some fun with a few days earlier.

The Viper can be the automotive equivalent of some newbie on a GSX-R1000 or an R1. It's a fast but unforgiving car. Tree-stump pulling torque and power - and no driver aids for traction control: something which is taken for granted on Ferrari, Porsche, even a Z06 Corvette has it. The Viper didn't even have ABS up until last year. Once the rear end breaks loose, you need some Schumacher reflexes to save it. That snake can bite.
06-16-2002 06:05 PM
NevadaF3
Might have some bad news......

"VIRGINIA CITY — Two people riding in a high-performance race car were killed in a crash during an annual car race near here Saturday.

Storey County sheriff’s deputies said driver Patrick Michael Jemison, 42, of Incline Village, and passenger Virginia Lynn Davis, 43, of Show Low, Ariz., were pronounced dead at the scene.

Deputy John Tyson said the accident occurred on State Route 341 during a time-trial run of the Audi Car Club Hill Climb Race.

A preliminary investigation shows the driver went into a curve too fast and lost control of his Dodge Viper. The vehicle slid off the roadway and fell about 250 feet down a ravine.

The race course on State Route 341 stretches for about seven miles between Virginia City and Silver City. The highway serves as the truck route between the two 19th-century mining boom towns located about 30 miles southeast of Reno.

The event is sanctioned by the Nevada Department of Transportation.

The accident is under investigation by the Nevada Highway Patrol."


This article was in today's paper along with a picture of the wrecked Viper. I am not sure as yet, but I have a feeling that this is the same guy that I raced in the original post - he may have been practicing the route that day I saw him. I am going to watch tonight's news and see if they show a picture of the car right-side-up so I can get a better look. The race the Viper was in is an annual event that takes place on the same road that many sportbike riders (myself included) do some high speed driving on. It is the same road that I raced the Viper on before. Unfortunately, a couple people died on that road yesterday. Lets all drive safe, I know its a car, but it is still fast driving and we can all try and keep this in mind when we are thinking about that double yellow blind corner pass around the semi....Know what I mean? keep the rubber side down.
06-14-2002 09:45 AM
Runo
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Was that sorta like the two attendants "parking" that Ferrari 250GT California in Ferris Buhler's Day Off ?

It was an interesting job. I had some moments that while not exactly like Ferris', were nearly as bad. Little tip to all those out there. Make sure and tip when you drop the car off, not when you are picking it up. Tipping when you leave is only paying us for having f%#&ed up... I mean parking your car. Money up front might just touch a soft spot in us.
06-13-2002 01:29 PM
old squid
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Originally posted by Runo
Yeah, I'm sure it was the 911 Turbo Old Squid... I spared y'all the details but I kinda know the guy. He's a doctor here in Ft. Worth and I used to work as a vallet at a fancy hotel out here. Anyway, he used to have an "older" model('96 or '97) and it too was a turbo. I got to park that one a few times :-))).
Was that sorta like the two attendants "parking" that Ferrari 250GT California in Ferris Buhler's Day Off ?

06-13-2002 12:37 PM
Runo Yeah, I'm sure it was the 911 Turbo Old Squid... I spared y'all the details but I kinda know the guy. He's a doctor here in Ft. Worth and I used to work as a vallet at a fancy hotel out here. Anyway, he used to have an "older" model('96 or '97) and it too was a turbo. I got to park that one a few times :-))). I knew it was him because he has his last name on his plates KIDNEY. As far as top speed goes I do understand they are quite a bit quicker than my R1, however, the time it would take for him to eat up my 100 yard lead when he's only going 10-20 mph faster than me would kinda be ridiculous. Once I got out in front of him that far i came out of my tuck and let off the throttle.... He passed me when I decelerated to about 130 and believe me, he was flying. I'm sure he's wishing I would have kept at it, but I'd rather not give him that satisfaction. :-) Oh yeah, I didn't write any of this stuff to try to brag or anything.... Sometimes I just think we give high dollar cars too much credit. Bottom line is, in only the most souped up of souped up cars is the horsepower/weight ratio anywhere near what a sportbikes is.
06-13-2002 04:28 AM
Lord Duckhunter Oops I grabbed the wrong video... It's been awhile since I went looking for them & basically just grabbed the first one I saw.

There is a video somewhere of a normally aspirated Supra kicking a big bikes ass, but I can't locate it. It's not near as big of a win margin, but the car still gets the honors.
06-13-2002 03:48 AM
Robert Here is a link to the car:

http://www.walserrz.com

(Normally aspirated my ass)

I've seen this car run before (here in AZ and it's fast as hell, and has a nice little blue bottle tucked inside)

The time I saw the guy he wanted to do roll ons, but would not race a friend on a Busa in the 1/4 from a standing start.

Dyno with a 2.0bar 90 shot NOS
06-13-2002 03:06 AM
Blackbird
Quote:
Originally posted by Lord Duckhunter
In this video both the Supra & the Busa are normally aspirated (no turbo's)

http://ryan.uneb.edu/videos/new/Walser-vs-busa.mpeg

BTW That is a real video & the whole thing was started between message forums on a thread similar to this.
NA Supra?? HA! Not true. Watch the part of the video where it says: "1.8 bar and 70 shot"! That's a lot of boost, and a lot of nitrous. There is another vid of the car dyno'ing at over 800bph, and the owner has done more mods to it since, and estimates that he's pushed it over 1000bph now.

The Busa was stock, and yes indeed the VERY VERY VERY fast supra did indeed beat it in a 70mph roll-on. Lets not take anything away from the car here - it is very very fast.

There is also a vid where the Walser supra goes up against a slightly modded 'busa (think it had a full race system exhaust, and I think that was about all ... someone might have the details on it). In that race the 'busa was slowly walking away from the supra. Then the guys in the supra missed 4th (from memory) gear, and the 'busa receded into the distance.


Put a turbo 'busa in there, and it would have walked all over the Walser supra. End of story. (And from what I hear the owner of the Walser supra has declined to race people that own turbo 'busas - CHICKEN ).
06-12-2002 09:30 PM
vector4 i saw that video a year ago, and even then i thought it was total BS. The guy on the busa did something wrong/rigged lose (a al WWF)

Also notice we are talking about a highly modified supra TT PLUS its on the bottle vs a bone stock busa. (your post stated it was a N/A supra?? I cant figure that out since the video clearly states an upgraded turbo plus NOS)

A turbo busa's power to weight ratio is 1 to 1.5 vs a supra which even at 1100hp is 1 to 3...... a supra beating one is a complete joke.
06-12-2002 09:25 PM
Llamafood hmmmmm.... all very interesting, just for the sake of telling stories..... Today after just installing a new C-5 x-metal TBR pipe, I was on my way back to Baylor from my friends garage when i came across a Z06 cruising at about 85 mph, I pulled along side of him and waited to get his attention. I got it and he hit the gas, I grabbed 3rd and quickly over took him in my 2001 929rr. I hit 160 and backed down. He was maybe 150 yards behind me and after i started backing down he blew past me. Now i have never had the pleasure of having a shootout with a car on the curves but id think a bike could hold its on fairly easily unless you were up against some openwheeled f-1 or something..... even a 911 or my friend in the z06 would really have to have their crap together to keep up with even an average bike rider on some good road. Those cars really take some smarts to keep them going were they are supposed to be going when they are dumping all 350+ horsies on the ground. But i am just shooting crap and prolly dont really know what i am talking about. lalalalalalalala have fun riding and dont do anything to stupid.
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