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10-08-2001 03:56 PM
shannon
10-08-2001 06:10 AM
shannon A whole system would be worth it to me. The difference on my bike is stock 132 rwhp compared to 149 rwhp with full muzzy system, jet kit, and timing advancer. Also dropping weight 15 pounds. I picked up a diconnected full exhaust at the kawi shop and brother it's heavy. I was quoted 1200, for what I want to do with my bike makes that worth it.
Shannon
10-08-2001 04:31 AM
sagekiller666
Quote:
Originally posted by RCjohn
Keep in mind that when you compare weights of exhaust you need compare correctly. A stock full system compared to aftermarket full system is drastic but you have to realize that the difference is due to the heavy cans not the headers. The OEM headers are not much heavier than aftermarket headers. The difference is only a couple of pounds. The difference in weight of the cans is probably 12-20 depending on the bike(ie, twin can or single). Point being that a full system doesn't save you much more weight than slip-ons with later model bikes especially if the OEM header is Titanium.
Actualy my stock headers are about 5x the weight of my akropovic headers.
10-07-2001 01:49 PM
richardr6
Re: Are full systems worth the $$$$$?

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Originally posted by Doogie
So what do you think? Are full systems really worth the almost doubled price over slip ons? How much more power do you gain by the full than the slip on?
To answer Doogie's question...... Slip-on's are not used for horsepower and torque. Slip-on's are used primarly for sound, and sound only. You may get 1-2 more horses with a slip-on, and to me you may get 3-4 with a full exhaust system. With a slip-on, 90% you will not have to jet, with a full system you will have to jet. Let see $290.00 slip-on, no jetting, you can put the system on. 690-$$$$ full exhaust, have to jet $110.00, K&N filter $65.00, plus labor ( not alot of people know how to jet and the full systems are alot more involved in putting them on).

So, to answer the question. slip-on= sound, cheap, little horsepower gain....... Full exhaust= more horsepower and torque, jet, filter= more money!
10-07-2001 01:40 PM
RCjohn Keep in mind that when you compare weights of exhaust you need compare correctly. A stock full system compared to aftermarket full system is drastic but you have to realize that the difference is due to the heavy cans not the headers. The OEM headers are not much heavier than aftermarket headers. The difference is only a couple of pounds. The difference in weight of the cans is probably 12-20 depending on the bike(ie, twin can or single). Point being that a full system doesn't save you much more weight than slip-ons with later model bikes especially if the OEM header is Titanium.
10-07-2001 12:25 PM
sagekiller666 it doesnt have to affect the power. my stock gsxr heeders and pipe compared to my full akropovic is night and day. One is heavy as ****, and the other i can hold up with 2 fingers.
10-06-2001 07:55 AM
RuffStuff You know I paid $340 for my Yosh RS-3 Carbon Fiber Race slip-on. Which matched well with my K&N so no rejetting was required. Now the full system version of this exhaust would have set me back $690. Then add the jet kit ($100) and labor for jetting ($$$), and you get alot more than just double the price. Now instead of having a whole lotta exhaust cluttering up my garage, I have just a Titanium Kawi cannister on a shelf. I also had money left over to buy other neat stuff. So if your bike is fairly new, get a slip-on and ride it like you stole it.
10-06-2001 06:47 AM
Doogie
Re: Re: Are full systems worth the $$$$$?

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Originally posted by Paul 750


everybody who knows me thinks I'm a paid spokesperson for M4. Why?? You don't pay double for a full system!!

P
You're right they cost more than double almost triple actually.

R6 Standard mount Aluminum slip on. $245
R6 Standard mount Aluminum full sys. $682

http://m4exhaust.com/pages/yamaha.html
10-06-2001 05:31 AM
Paul 750
Re: Are full systems worth the $$$$$?

Quote:
Originally posted by Doogie
So what do you think? Are full systems really worth the almost doubled price over slip ons? How much more power do you gain by the full than the slip on?
It's funny that people perceive full systems to cost double......I have often been asked what's the best pipe for the gixxer.......everybody who knows me thinks I'm a paid spokesperson for M4. Why?? You don't pay double for a full system!!

I agree 100% that most people buy pipes for looks and sound. The hp increase is just a nice "my bike put out this on the dyno" conversation piece. I do think that the performace gain is relevant when shopping, but you don't need to break the bank when shopping for looks or ponies. Full systems aren't tht much more and for the gixxer owner (up until now 2002) had to decide between flange on with a black mid pipe or full system. Lookswise, the full had the slip beat.




P
10-06-2001 05:21 AM
desmo079
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Originally posted by GaBandit12
Who wants to keep the engine in the 10,000 rpm range all the time on the street?
I DO!I DO!I DO!!!!!
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