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11-05-2001 04:57 AM
fotobw I am glad I had this thread posted a while back and the thought was in the back of my head when I was riding on Saturday night. I came around a corner (around 11 at night) on a road that I like to think I know and saw a deer right in front of me. I hit the brakes harder than I ever have and came to a stop just fine. I am glad I wasn't going too fast though, could have gotten pretty messy. Thank you for posting this and it is something that I will think about even more when riding. Ride safe.

Dave
10-08-2001 10:54 AM
jonathan
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Originally posted by Birdman


Were your other 42 posts as insightfull as this one?
YES !

In all honesty I giggled like a schoolgirl when I read that post up there.
10-05-2001 01:50 PM
apexismaximus Christ, I've gone so far as to rationalize it to the point that "hey with leathers on, as long as I can slow it to 20MPH in the distance that is visable I'll be okay." Truth is I TRY to not ride faster than I can stop but with leathers on I let myself get away with a little too much sometimes (mostly in the very tight lower speed corners). Hope it doesn't bite me some day but I'm addicted to the lean angle. I have REALLY been practicing braking lately since I moved to SoCal and gotten on the mountains. Some of this sh!t is so tight you just can't see through the corner very well though and that's where the margins get a little thin sometimes. So every once in a while on a ride I'll check the mirrors to make sure it's clear and just grab the sh!t out of the brakes. Try it sometime. If you'll ride at 140mph try braking from it once in a while, it'll open your eyes. If you ride hard in the corners you better practice braking hard in those too. Best get good at managing traction though when mixing cornering and braking together. I use the MSF technique for the corners, stand it up as you brake progressively harder untill you're upright and at that point you better be approaching a stoppie. Then it's a matter of deciding to run off the road at the lowest speed possible or letting off the brakes to dive hard back into the corner.
Ride safe
10-05-2001 12:25 PM
Birdman
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Originally posted by jonathan


HA !

That reminds of truemeaningoflife.com

"U CAPITALIZIN' : BAD"
Were your other 42 posts as insightfull as this one?
10-05-2001 09:18 AM
jonathan
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Originally posted by fotobw
NO.
HA !

That reminds of truemeaningoflife.com

"U CAPITALIZIN' : BAD"
10-05-2001 07:53 AM
chris_y2k_r1 The honesty in this thread is outstanding.

I too am guilty of this... but I have been aware of this too. A friend of mine came around a blind corner that we both know very well and lost both his legs. They were severed by a flat bed tow truck that had the bead almost all the way lowered, parked on the side of the road in his lane.

If I can't see a clear line through the turn I don't push it. That means going a lot slower than I'd like to much of the time. It's a survival discipline.
10-05-2001 03:29 AM
Blackbird Good post BM. You may recall that a similar thing happened to me a few weeks ago with sheep covering the entire road.

I don't know about everyone here, but going around a corner slowly just doesn't do it for me. I ride to ride fast and ride corners faster. In the Road Code over here it says that you should be able to stop within half of the viewable distance ahead of you at all times. In many a corner you have got to be going damn slow to be able to achieve this. The kinda slow that you would derive little enjoyment from.

Now we all know that riding is dangerous and we accept that danger right? We do as much as we can to minimise this danger, but most of the time we stop short of keeping the bike in the garage and taking the cage. I think that if you're riding on the road, the speed at which to you take decide to take a corner is very much the level of risk that you are willing to subject yourself to. When you're carving twisties at a decent pace you're never going to be 100% safe, and there are going to be situations that if they arise you are going to have an accident. I think that is part of the risk that we all must accept when we ride out of our driveways.

Now I'm not saying that if there is an obstacle around a corner that it is inevitable (sp?) that you will hit it, so you may as well ride at full pace all the time and don't give this matter a second thought. One of the rules of riding is to "always leave yourself an out", and in preparing yourself for a corner this should always be prevailant on your mind. In essence don't ride the corners at 100%, leave yourself a margin where you can change your line, lean angle etc so as to avoid a potential hazard. BUT accept that in some situations (however unlikely) there is not going to be an out unless you were travelling at the speed at which your granny would take that corner.

Many people aren't prepared to take that risk, and the only riding for them is on the track. Fair enough. Personally I'm prepared to take the risk to an extent.

Thoughts?
10-05-2001 02:23 AM
realwrld It ain't the 99 times you get away with it, that causes problems. It's the one time that you don't that can kill ya'.

I'd rather be a live chicken than a dead one. Better a fat squid than a flat squid.

And yes, I am quilty of the same thing.
10-05-2001 01:45 AM
748 Abuser I confess. I'm guilty of being stupid and irresponsible about 60-70% of the time on two roads in particular, that I claim to "know like the back of my hand."

Thanks for the wake-up James. Sometimes a person needs to be reminded of their carelessness.
10-04-2001 11:16 PM
endleswavz Dude, the ironic fact is the absolute perfect timing of this post! Just the day-before-yesterday my bud and I were riding a road that we have ridden, oh, countless times. As we came around this small curve (one that we normally take slow due to the over abundance of gravel in this area of roadway) we come across the outside wall of an exploded tire. We get past it and I feel pretty safe that is the only piece we are going to come across....well this [email protected]$ must have blown his tire and decided, "Hey, why don't I just drag it with me until my rim disintegrates and my car catches fire!" Dude, there were pieces of this thing around what seemed like every corner for most of the road! Point..........your post couldn't be more true! Here, here!!!
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