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08-15-2002 01:11 PM
FZR400Tony
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Originally posted by Fizzman
The angst riddled teen years is where punk and metal found it's roots and ultimate creation. That was my only point that started all this.

As for who appreciates it more, that statement is laughable. Who is to say who appreciates what more? The kid with the safety pin in his ear and the 30-year-old car salesman can love the same music just as much, one obviously lives the lifestyle more than the other, but again that means exactly dick to me as far as being a fan goes.
If you love it you love it.

As for whats "real punk" and whats not. There is some really shitty punk out right now, and good punk, but just because it's pop punk doesn't automatically mean its shit, or discredits is as not being punk.
Ramones were bigger Bubblegum punk than some of these guys on MTV, so I guess the ramones weren't punk?

I have no issue with anyone on this, just trying to clarify my statement a bit.
Tony, I have an immense amount of respect of you as a person and rider, and I have told you so before, so I'm not flaming you bro.
I'm just not a big fan of "my era was better" or any form of music elitism. Love what you love, do what makes you happy.
Hey, I'm punk,
I'm also heavy metal, folk, techno/trance....

i just want to make it clear, most of what i wrote was very tongue in cheek and was meant to taken humorously. i don't use smileys enough.

nothing was meant to be mean, well, except maybe the u2 dig. and definitely the poison one. <<almost missed that one

also, no need to respect me, i don't do anything but talk too much, say too little. (which doesn't fit up there)

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Tony, hmm trance, think of prodigy light

I'ts laid back techno. Paul Oakenfold is a very popular trance DJ (some say over rated ) But most trance CD's never have breaks inbetween songs, they all go together in one 80 min song . GREAT to ride to.
If you would like to try out a trance CD let me know. You live right by me so I could mail you something if you don't have broadband to download it from my FTP.
i can see that, i enjoyed it a lot, thanks. i won't mention anything about howard jones though.

btw, going to pocono next weekend? i'll be there saturday for sure, not sure what other days. look for a gsxr with 725 and a fog light. some people never grow up.
08-15-2002 10:30 AM
kvpZX9R
Quote:
Originally posted by Fizzman

Blues brothers appreciation post
Glad someone caught my hint there, but it's still the truth.
08-15-2002 10:26 AM
Fizzman
Quote:
Originally posted by kvpZX9R
I like both kinds of music.....Country & Western
Blues brothers appreciation post
08-15-2002 10:16 AM
kvpZX9R I like both kinds of music.....Country & Western

Buck Owens, Bob Wills, The Hag, David Allan Coe, George Jones.

Ain't like nothing like a crying in your beer song, except for a good western swing.
08-15-2002 09:42 AM
Fizzman The angst riddled teen years is where punk and metal found it's roots and ultimate creation. That was my only point that started all this.

As for who appreciates it more, that statement is laughable. Who is to say who appreciates what more? The kid with the safety pin in his ear and the 30-year-old car salesman can love the same music just as much, one obviously lives the lifestyle more than the other, but again that means exactly dick to me as far as being a fan goes.
If you love it you love it.

As for whats "real punk" and whats not. There is some really shitty punk out right now, and good punk, but just because it's pop punk doesn't automatically mean its shit, or discredits is as not being punk.
Ramones were bigger Bubblegum punk than some of these guys on MTV, so I guess the ramones weren't punk?

I have no issue with anyone on this, just trying to clarify my statement a bit.
Tony, I have an immense amount of respect of you as a person and rider, and I have told you so before, so I'm not flaming you bro.
I'm just not a big fan of "my era was better" or any form of music elitism. Love what you love, do what makes you happy.
Hey, I'm punk,
I'm also heavy metal, folk, techno/trance....



Tony, hmm trance, think of prodigy light

I'ts laid back techno. Paul Oakenfold is a very popular trance DJ (some say over rated ) But most trance CD's never have breaks inbetween songs, they all go together in one 80 min song . GREAT to ride to.
If you would like to try out a trance CD let me know. You live right by me so I could mail you something if you don't have broadband to download it from my FTP.
08-15-2002 09:11 AM
FZR400Tony
Quote:
Originally posted by dash
i thought it was obvious that the striped socks and lip stick would be the metal fan. i was using both genres (ya like that?) of music.

ANYWAY...
i would also like to point out that the only lip stick has ever been on my body....well...never mind.

btw, what the hell is trance?
08-15-2002 07:29 AM
dash i thought it was obvious that the striped socks and lip stick would be the metal fan. i was using both genres (ya like that?) of music.

ANYWAY...
08-15-2002 05:05 AM
FZR400Tony
Quote:
Originally posted by dash
i dont think so dude. you always see all those little kids running around with black lipstick and chains on their necks with loud striped socks pulled up past the bottom of their shorts. not to be complete without the 3-foot long wallet chain which is usually attached to their lip or something and extra nasty hair and a Misfits shirt (even though these kids are too young to even know who the hell the misfits are/were).
if youre trying to say that the mosh pit at the sum41 or Taproot show is full of a bunch of 30-year-olds, i think you need to, um...GROW UP. dont get me wrong, im a big supporter of the Never Never Land syndrom, but 30 yr-olds in the punk/metal show is like that 74-yr-old dude in the brand new NSX at 15 mph. its hard to see the fun of a mosh pit unless you got some good drugs i guess.
a persons favorite music is a touchy subject so im sorry if i offend, just talkin shit.
i think implying that black lip stick on men, stripped socks, sum 41 and new misfits are punk is your mistake. it's like saying that zepplin, def leppard and poison are the same kind of music (one is good, one is weak copy of the original, one is a drag-queen copy of the copy). see a real punk band play (by punk mean a band that isn't into a look, it's a musical intensity). though real punk depends on your generation, the stooges generation thinks the stuff i like is crap (go figure a punker generation gap).

i just saw the rollins band this past winter at the 9:30 club in dc. i haven't been to a show since the early 90's. i figured it'd still be a bunch of adrenline crazed people who would hit need to get hit once in awhile. i felt like one of the youngest people there. trust me, it wasn't a bunch of 17 year old kids and skinheads kicking the crap out of each other anymore.

and yes, i have to admit, i felt like i was in the middle of a ferrari owner's club. all this power and no one who'd be willing to use. it was kinda funny, because rollins ripped on the crowd for it and they just didn't seem to get it. he said something about about people trading in their intensity for 8% body fat. i don't anyone really got it.

as for mosh pits, back when it was slam dancing, there were rules that people went by. and if you didn't do stuff right, you got your ass kicked. i see people stage dive superman style. see back in the day when your boot hooked someone's dead, someone and his friends beat the living crap out of you. i guess it's one more example of a small thing that expanded to the populous, and the populous is can only immitate not replication. and yeah, the group of old folks didn't have pit that would last longer than 3 chords into every other song. maybe the dc hardcore scene just isn't the same as the scenes i grew up in, but it was mostly a bunch of mellow old people reliving the glory of their youth. like an intense u2 show.
08-14-2002 04:08 PM
dash i dont think so dude. you always see all those little kids running around with black lipstick and chains on their necks with loud striped socks pulled up past the bottom of their shorts. not to be complete without the 3-foot long wallet chain which is usually attached to their lip or something and extra nasty hair and a Misfits shirt (even though these kids are too young to even know who the hell the misfits are/were).
if youre trying to say that the mosh pit at the sum41 or Taproot show is full of a bunch of 30-year-olds, i think you need to, um...GROW UP. dont get me wrong, im a big supporter of the Never Never Land syndrom, but 30 yr-olds in the punk/metal show is like that 74-yr-old dude in the brand new NSX at 15 mph. its hard to see the fun of a mosh pit unless you got some good drugs i guess.
a persons favorite music is a touchy subject so im sorry if i offend, just talkin shit.
08-14-2002 02:51 PM
lord tim
Quote:
Originally posted by Fizzman


30-year olds didn't invent punk music. Or heavy metal.
Yeah but we sure appreciate it more than any jr. high kid.
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